3 Black Swans

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Cutten, Jun 26, 2008.

  1. Banjo

    Banjo

    Yes, markets crash from lows, not highs.
     
    #11     Jun 27, 2008
  2. zdreg

    zdreg

    the 5th largest investment bank in the US bear stearns has already gone bankrupt.other blue chip financial firms are expected to go bankrupt.

    your 3 listings do not come even close to being black swan events . the fact that an event may happen that does not meet the consensus of the majority does not in itself constitute a black swan event.
    this is the definition of black swan event:"a black swan is a large-impact, hard-to-predict, and rare event beyond the realm of normal expectations."
     
    #12     Jun 27, 2008
  3. There is a first time for everything
     
    #13     Jun 27, 2008
  4. HEAR,HEAR!!!
     
    #14     Jun 27, 2008
  5. On a side note, talked to a realtor hear in Vegas that has worked this market for well over 20 years....they said EVERY deal they have closed in over the last 9 months have ALL been foreclosures. :eek: :eek: :eek:

    All I can say is WOW!
     
    #15     Jun 27, 2008
  6. Is there a reason why the US gov't along with other major gov't can't jump in and absorb the debt and losses? Yes, anther bailout, but this good for nothing fed chair is useless.
     
    #16     Jun 27, 2008
  7. Yes....for the same reason casinos do not reimburse losers.:)
     
    #17     Jun 27, 2008
  8. The economy is not a casino. No bail out, we are, well, screwed.
     
    #18     Jun 27, 2008
  9. Cutten

    Cutten

    If they aren't even close to being black swans, why are the premiums for CL $200 calls not huge, why are S&P 1000 puts selling so cheap, and why are C and LEH not in single digits?

    Are you trying to claim that S&P 1000, oil $200, and Citigroup/Lehman or someone similar going broke are small impact, easy to predict, common events that are expected by most normal market participants?

    That would imply that if you bet on them and they happen, you won't make much money. Is that what you think? S&P hits 1000 by late October and shorting or buying loads of Dec OTM puts would not make much? Ditto with oil $200?
     
    #19     Jun 27, 2008
  10. I tend to agree, basically.
     
    #20     Jun 27, 2008