25,000 Roundtrips a day?!

Discussion in 'Prop Firms' started by pinetboltz, Sep 12, 2016.

  1. dealmaker

    dealmaker

    Nav is once in a generation type of a trader. He was a superstar and they are very rare. Tom Dante was interviewed on chat with traders, you can find it on YouTube; he is no Nav.
    25k round-trip lots were done back when markets were much less fragmented, had much more velocity, a lot less HFT nuisance, far more retail traders, very few dark pools and when props were dime a dozen, its not today's reality.
     
    #61     Oct 1, 2016
  2. Overnight

    Overnight

    Kinda' like the salad days when tics were measured in fractions of a dollar, like 1/8th and 3/16ths? Yeah, those were the days. Fractions! When men were men and calculators were scared!
     
    #62     Oct 1, 2016
  3. comagnum

    comagnum

    Big deal if some trade has a 7 digit year, many people do this and don't call the press to brag about it. Most end up giving it all back and can never replicate it- just shooting stars. These shooting star kids that never had a job to begin, having borrowed money from their family, inherited it, or are just spoiled rotten - Now they have resorted to selling training - a tell tell sign of blowing up. The traders that put in at least a decade if not two or three of good performance are the only one I care to know more about.
     
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    #63     Oct 1, 2016
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  4. I didn't thoroughly read the complete article...
    But "25,000 Roundtrips in a day" is absurd o_O:confused: -- scalping is for losers, in my simple humble opinion.

    You can make a bundle, with just one or Two,
     
    #64     Oct 1, 2016
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  5. Handle123

    Handle123

    I liked it much better when it was 16ths in stocks, I often thought it was a way brokerage tried to get paid as separate fills when they went to pennies. Diluting doesn't make all things better, some always asking if there a way to trade futures in even smaller increments than they are now.
     
    #65     Oct 1, 2016
  6. Handle123

    Handle123

    You ever thought if not for scalpers, you might get 1-20 ticks slippage on every trade? All those I know who been scalping for five years plus are consistent, you have to be, it is a niche, you don't make many ticks, but it is consistent, and once automated correctly, it provides volume. Buy low and sell high, let trend traders fight in the middle.
     
    #66     Oct 1, 2016
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  7. comagnum

    comagnum

    Take trader 71 or the pit bull - those guys use to account for a lot of the volume on the ES, trader 71 now trades only about twice a day, and the pit bull no longer trades futures - he is selling options premium now. Why did these huge volume movers quit - simple - HFT's own the spread - they adapted. Most people are way,way late to the scalping party and are just fish food for the big HFT sharks.
     
    #67     Oct 1, 2016
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  8. tommo

    tommo

    Yes. I'm a pro trader. Have been for 10 years. So was Nav. Completely pointless saying 'he was paying this' 'he was having to hold this on his account' when it is wrong Might as well talk about facts
     
    #68     Oct 2, 2016
  9. Surprise

    Surprise

    #69     Oct 2, 2016
  10. tommo

    tommo

    I've worked at the same firm as him and know many of his friends. He wasn't doing what he was arrested for, and so what he lived at home? His choice. He has best part of $10 mill in his trading account.
    If that doesn't make you a 'pro trader' I'd happily aspire to whatever he is.
     
    #70     Oct 2, 2016