Thanks for your inputs, I was just testing how intelligent the traders are around here, am I listening to The Men or the Boys so to speak, well you are all right. you have passed your test. I have informed Alastair darling and Gordon Brown of this board so I think that they will be on here later asking you all advice about how to run an economy, two wars and a housing bust in the middle of the Financial crisis and avoid the country going into a long term recession and bankruptcy Do we give up one of the wars or both of them? should we stop listening to Mr Bush? How many busted Banks make a $trillion, is there such a number as a $Gazillion? would that be enough to bail us out. Maybe they should sail a big ship, crash into an iceberg and then start bailing out and see how long they last before sinking into oblivion, that is probably close to a $Gazillion, lets try it and see< I am sure we are close to the BOTTOm, Glug Glug Gug.