22 things you need to know about trading from Vic Niederhoffer

Discussion in 'Trading' started by marketsurfer, May 2, 2013.

  1. How about "22 things you need to know" ?:D
     
    #11     May 3, 2013
  2. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    23. When Soros gives you sound advice, listen.

    "There was a flaw in his approach however. It is valid only in a trendless market. If there is a historical trend, a tide, .... he can be very seriously hurt, because he doesn't have a proper fail-safe mechanism."


    I think a Karen vs. Vic comparison is due since they seem to employ very similar strategies. The differences as far as I understand them:

    1. Karen also sells OTM calls, not just puts.
    2. She adjusts the positions actively.
    3. She somehow survived the 2008 meltdown.
    4. She keeps capital for further adjustment in case of big market movement.
    5. She is a licensed insurance agent. (just kidding)

    So I guess I will take Karen's advice over Vic's....

    Her fav book if anyone wants to do the same:

    The Option Trader's Hedge Fund: A Business Framework for Trading Equity and Index Options

    http://www.amazon.com/Option-Trader...r=1-1&keywords=the+option+trader's+hedge+fund
     
    #12     May 3, 2013

  3. I like that book actually, simple and very practical oriented. Haven't done much in the way of trading credit spreads or writing naked options though.
     
    #13     May 3, 2013
  4. zdreg

    zdreg

    you are not in the insurance business. don't write deep out of the money naked options, period.
     
    #14     May 3, 2013
  5. How smart he was...:D
     
    #15     May 3, 2013
  6. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    Reminds me of Rodney Dangerfield's famous line.


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    #16     May 3, 2013
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  8. Does Karen even exist? I thought she was a marketing ploy of TOS like Ronald McDonald or something ----
     
    #18     May 3, 2013

  9. A drift is different than a trend. Try statistics 201. Thanks.
     
    #19     May 3, 2013


  10. " Niederhoffer was the only one of his managers who retired voluntarily from trading for him while still ahead. Soros held Victor in such high esteem that he sent his son to work for him to learn how to trade." George Soros. Alchemy of Finance
     
    #20     May 3, 2013