2014 was a summer sizzler: Earth's hottest on record

dbphoenix · Sep 22, 2014

Ricter said:
"No warming for years", yet every other month NASA reports the earth has had the hottest average month of X, since record-keeping began.
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Because the oceans are soaking it up . . .

jem · Sep 22, 2014

what a bunch of ridiculous double speak.

the models were trained on the "observed trend" data prior to 1998 and then completely failed when put to the test of predicting temperature real time after 1998. They predicted big warming and there has been zero warming.

how many times do we have to prove this to your lying ass fraudcurrents.

futurecurrents said:
IPCC models have been accurate
For 1992–2006, the natural variability of the climate amplified human-caused global surface warming, while it dampened the surface warming for 1997–2012. Over the full period, the overall warming rate has remained within the range of IPCC model projections, as the 2013 IPCC report notes.

"The long-term climate model simulations show a trend in global-mean surface temperature from 1951 to 2012 that agrees with the observed trend (very high confidence). There are, however, differences between simulated and observed trends over periods as short as 10 to 15 years (e.g., 1998 to 2012)."

The IPCC also notes that climate models have accurately simulated trends in extreme cold and heat, large-scale precipitation pattern changes, and ocean heat content (where most global warming goes). Models also now better simulate the Arctic sea ice decline, which they had previously dramatically underestimated.

All in all, the IPCC models do an impressive job accurately representing and projecting changes in the global climate, contrary to contrarian claims. In fact, the IPCC global surface warming projections have performed much better than predictions made by climate contrarians .

It's important to remember that weather predictions and climate predictions are very different. It's harder to predict the weather further into the future. With climate predictions, it's short-term variability (like unpredictable ocean cycles) that makes predictions difficult. They actually do better predicting climate changes several decades into the future, during which time the short-term fluctuations average out.

That's why climate models have a hard time predicting changes over 10–15 years, but do very well with predictions several decades into the future, as the IPCC illustrates. This is good news, because with climate change, it's these long-term changes we're worried about:

IPCC AR5 projected global average surface temperature changes in a high emissions scenario (RCP8.5; red) and low emissions scenario (RCP2.6;
blue).

http://www.theguardian.com/environm...t/01/ipcc-global-warming-projections-accurate
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jem · Sep 22, 2014

The oceans aren't soaking it up... the oceans are warming since the last ice age.
They release the co2 that you are harping about..

Change in ocean temps leads change in co2...

dbphoenix said:
Because the oceans are soaking it up . . .
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fhl · Sep 22, 2014

Somebody said something earlier about the eco-terrorism in our future....

Strong-arm tactics: Watch: Climate marchers attack & try to steal ‘I Love Fossil Fuels’ sign from skeptic at NYC march

dbphoenix · Sep 22, 2014

jem said:
The oceans aren't soaking it up... the oceans are warming since the last ice age.
They release the co2 that you are harping about..
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Scientists would disagree.

And the last ice age ended before 1982.

Ricter · Sep 22, 2014

jem said:
The oceans aren't soaking it up... the oceans are warming since the last ice age.
They release the co2 that you are harping about..

Change in ocean temps leads change in co2...

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The oceans are absorbing CO2, not releasing it, hence the rise in their acidity.

fhl · Sep 22, 2014

Comedy gold.

377OHMS · Sep 22, 2014

Nothing changes when it comes to the need so many liberals have for drama. If they don't get enough drama at home they dedicate their lives to creating it.

dbphoenix · Sep 22, 2014

Ricter said:
The oceans are absorbing CO2, not releasing it, hence the rise in their acidity.
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Over and over again for 1500 posts. One big giant circle.

Ricter · Sep 22, 2014

377OHMS said:

Nothing changes when it comes to the need so many liberals have for drama. If they don't get enough drama at home they dedicate their lives to creating it.
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Nothing changes when it comes to conservative obtuseness.
Now why would anyone have thought an ice age might be coming, back in '77?