2012: The Battle for Survival

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  1. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    #521     Nov 4, 2012
  2. mutluit

    mutluit

    Another fallacy is this:
    if the price changes were random, then the price would not deviate much from each other, ie. practically it would stay at the same level, ie. stay flat.
    But since this usually is not the case, and even Random Walk Theory proves it, then the conclusion is: the market is not random!
    But then it must be predictable!... :)
    So, what is true? :)
     
    #522     Nov 4, 2012
  3. spd

    spd

    Neke, does your wife have any idea about your trading ups and downs? I mean, when you tell her you had "a rough day" in the markets, does she know that 300k has disappeared from an account? Im just curious. Not trying to stick my nose too far in your business, but man take a real hard look at how the stress and anxiety you are harboring may be affecting your family. I think your regular cash withdraws have been your best trades.
     
    #523     Nov 4, 2012
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    #524     Nov 4, 2012
  5. The fact that the losses tend to be large multiples of the wins suggests, at the very least, that Neke is almost never getting the best of it.

    Trading is simply another form of gaming or gambling, i.e. it is making bets on the outcome of events. The only way to make consistent profits over time is to bet when you have the best of it and refrain from betting when you have the worst of it (which assumes you are playing a game that is beatable, i.e. a game in which you can indeed get the best of it, at least from time to time).
     
    #525     Nov 4, 2012
  6. I would say that a trader with an edge and who bets within his or her bankroll should have very few losing months, and none so catastophic as to result in a losing year, let alone three losing years in a row.

    A losing month should at least signal to a trader that some reevaluation of his play is required. Multiple losing months should signal outright failure and the need to get back to the proverbial drawing board.

    This assumes that the desired end of one's trading is consistent profitability. If one is trading for fun, or one is trading for a score by attempting to run up a small money bankroll, (both of which are, in my opinion, good enough reasons to trade) then these considerations are less relevant.

    I assume that Neke's goal is consistent profitability, and not entertainment or to make a score.
     
    #526     Nov 4, 2012
  7. neke

    neke

    Code:
    ENTRYAMT	EXITAMT		NETRETURN
    35160		36156		974
    16800		17790		961
    31150		32513		1341
    20194		22230		2015
    41040		41425		370
    31138		32305		1145
    133954		130623		-3369
    52167		54495		2313
    46303		48427		2102
    48900		48300		-622
    59952		59566		-416
    49572		50056		462
    67040		67220		165
    55000		60035		5006
    57600		58800		1185
    34536		30566		-3999
    51840		48600		-3255
    
    6% loss from two trades is not unexpected for the strategy in question, although should be rare. I have tabulated the returns from the srategy from 7/30/2012 when I started measuring it, the results are above. The last two trades are this week's losing trades. In spite of those the strategy is still positive over that period, and it simply means I will be more constrained with my sizing from now until I am sure it is not a permanent market change.
     
    #527     Nov 4, 2012
  8. neke

    neke

    She know things are not working well, but no she doesn't know that 300K has disappeared! ( I don't know that either!!)
     
    #528     Nov 4, 2012
  9. It appears from your weekly comments that you are always making changes to your strategy.

    If that is the case, how can you make a fair comparison from one week to another and all past results?

    The only constant seems to be you as the trader.
     
    #529     Nov 4, 2012
  10. neke

    neke

    $500/day on an account my size will seem like a home run in the long run :)

    Yes, I am working on getting to that consistency, and certainty in my strategies - I am longing for the day when everything I do will be mechanical (answer a number of objective questions and let the algorithm place a trade if conditions are met)
     
    #530     Nov 4, 2012
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