2012: The Battle for Survival

Discussion in 'Journals' started by neke, Jan 17, 2012.

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  1. Businessman

    Businessman

    I been trading since the late 90's, i have a larger account than Neke has and i too am in a multi year drawdown. Coincidentally my equity peaked in september 2009.

    However my equity bottomed in january 2011, it has not been setting new lows like Nekes' account has.. the reason is simple i cut back my size drastically after a very poor 2010. I developed a new method and began trading it with the same reduced size level.

    A good DAY trader should not have multiple years of back to back losses.

    If that is the case then it is all the proof needed that something is seriously wrong with the method being used. My method was weak and I only made outstanding profits in 2008 and 2009 because market conditions were good. I was printing money. The lack of robustness in my method was hidden.

    Neke needs to stop bleeding.. cut back his size. Then he needs to develop a more robust method of trading. If he cant find anything really good then he needs to wait until we get the easy markets like we had back in the noughties and then he can step back on the gas.

    Currently he is just churning and burning his own account.
     
    #211     Apr 22, 2012
  2. +1


    ..this is not rocket science...there has been some very good advice here lately......
     
    #212     Apr 22, 2012
  3. speaking of easy markets,

    someone pushing random buy/sell buttons could of made money since last december

    (exaggeration)

    Thanks for the great posts. I hope neke won't be the only onw to benefit (scratch that - I'm benefiting! :))
     
    #213     Apr 22, 2012
  4. leonarda

    leonarda

    Some tips for you neke
    1. Number 1 rule is CAPITAL PRESERVATION
    2. When your account is trending against you badly, ie.long drawdown, reduce position size until your equity starts to trend in the right direction, then increase size...

    Simple as that!
    With your current performance i would reduce to trading say a 10k account, put the other 150k or so in a savings account...
     
    #214     Apr 22, 2012
  5. Best post


    neke please read

    and btw, when you blow out that 10k, you will know what would of happened weeks later with your whole sum. It will be a great way to cut back and focus. :) do it!
     
    #215     Apr 22, 2012
  6. Wide Tailz

    Wide Tailz

    The glorious Third Wave....... a sight to behold. I call them tails :D
     
    #216     Apr 22, 2012
  7. leonarda

    leonarda

    also, see BusinessMan's post above who recovered by this means.
    A typical "losing trader" tends to think "...ah but if I cut back my size and I start winning again i'll not get back to profit...". Fact is they go broke instead!! Get back to a winning trend, then increase size.
    So tip 3. DON't be GREEDY!
     
    #217     Apr 23, 2012
  8. If the odds are against you, such as when gambling in Vegas, the best strategy is to put everything on one gamble.

    If you have a consistent advantage, then you want to always bet a size that doesn't cause ruin.
     
    #218     Apr 23, 2012
  9. That's the most asinine thing I've read on ET this year.

    If the odds are against you don't play JFC!:buy into an index fund and be done.
     
    #219     Apr 23, 2012
  10. wtf do you know. you're taking your account to zero in n months.
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?threadid=238148
     
    #220     Apr 23, 2012
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