2012 Republicans: Who can defeat Obama/Who will you vote for?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by alientrader, Feb 5, 2011.

  1. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Well let me help you get more familiar with him. He is currently our Ambassador to China. He is a former Gov of Utah. In a 2008 evaluation of state governors' fiscal policies, the Cato Institute praised Huntsman's conservative tax policies, ranking him in a tie for fifth place on overall fiscal policy. He was particularly lauded for his efforts to cut taxes, where he received the highest score on tax policy of all 50 governors. During his tenure as governor, Utah was named the best managed state by the Pew Center on the States.

    He speaks fluent mandarin. He is the son of billionaire businessman and philanthropist Jon Huntsman of Huntsman Corporation.

    He worked as a White House staff assistant in the Reagan Administration, Deputy Assistant Secretary of Commerce and Ambassador to Singapore in the administration of President George H. W. Bush, and a Deputy United States Trade Representative in the George W. Bush Administration.

    In addition to his public service, Huntsman served as an executive for the Huntsman Corporation, the Huntsman Cancer Foundation, and CEO of Huntsman Family Holdings Company. Other organizations he has served include the Utah Opera, Envision Utah, the Coalition for Utah's Future, and KSL-TV's Family Now campaign.

    He has a phenomenal relationship with China and Hu. Going forward this relationship is going to be crucial to the prosperity of this country over the next 25 years.

    So we got this guy or we could stick with a community organizer. Both about the same right?
     
    #51     Feb 9, 2011
  2. Nice, but it credentials mattered, Wesley Clarke would be president. It is about media. JFK proved this many years ago. Reagan, Clinton and Obama have reaffirmed this, does this guy sell? Politics is no different than music. You might be able to sing great, but can you sell records??
     
    #52     Feb 9, 2011
  3. As Donald Sutherland say's at 2:35 in the vid, Very pretty colonel, very pretty, but can they fight? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJJHSsLhE24

    He certainly has the credentials, but we'll see how he holds up when the media turns up the heat, and you know they're going to turn it up all the way to protect their chosen son.



     
    #53     Feb 9, 2011
  4. RCG Trader thanks that laugh hit the spot.
     
    #54     Feb 9, 2011
  5. Regarding 'Black people vs. niggaz', it works the same exact way with Jews, btw. A decent, honest Jew HATES a slimy kike like Madoff... going around acting like a walking stereotype ripping people off, making all of us look bad.

    As for African-Americans, IMO the most important thing right now is to go back to the traditional two-parent household. Most African-American kids today only have one parent to raise them, and that really needs to change ASAP.
     
    #55     Feb 9, 2011
  6. Friday, February 04, 2011
    Who's The Real "Quitter", Sarah Palin Or Jon Huntsman Jr? Palin "Quit" One Job Under Pressure, Huntsman "Quit" Two Jobs Under No Pressure


    Jon Huntsman Jr., standing to Palin's left


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    Nearly 18 months after Sarah Palin resigned as Governor of Alaska on July 2009, a mere 18 months into her first term, many of her detractors still refer to her as a "quitter". This continues to happen despite the fact that Palin made the decision with the greatest reluctance and only after thoughtful consideration, driven by the fact that the endless ethics complaints filed against her, most of which were dismissed out of hand, were bogging down the executive branch and impairing its function. Even to this day, the executive branch struggles to fulfill a request for 26,553 pages of Palin's official e-mails. Palin decided that the welfare of Alaskans took precedence over her personal ego. Furthermore, at the time of Palin's resignation, there was no firm expectation that she would become a millionaire Fox News personality; her legal fees were approaching $500,000.

    Yet these same anklebiters have completely ignored the example of former Utah Governor Jon Huntsman Jr., who recently resigned his post as U.S. Ambassador to China, effective April 30th, 2011. Huntsman resigned under absolutely no pressure at all. In fact, there are no altruistic motives to his resignation; he's said to be clearing the decks for a possible run at the Republican Presidential nomination. It was strictly an opportunistic, self-serving decision.

    Furthermore, this is not the first time Huntsman has resigned an office. On August 11th, 2009, a mere 10 months after being re-elected Governor of Utah in a landslide, Huntsman suddenly resigned as Governor in order to become the U.S. Ambassador to China. While this decision was more altruistic, there was absolutely no pressure on him to walk away from the Governor's mansion. In fact, Huntsman enjoyed stratospheric popularity ratings despite being somewhat of a RINO in a deep-red state.

    The issue here isn't integrity or competency; Jon Huntsman is as clean as a hound's tooth, and his popularity in Utah attests to his competency as Governor. Instead, the issue is hypocrisy. Once again, many of Sarah Palin's critics employ a double standard, subjecting Palin to a higher and harsher standard than others in her shoes. It looks like Conservatives4Palin noticed the disparity on January 31st. This is one reason why Alaskans4Palin.com came into being; to show the world that there are still fair-minded Alaskans capable of objective reporting about Palin.

    The bottom line: If resigning from a job is the primary definition of a quitter, then Jon Huntsman is much more of a quitter than Sarah Palin.

    Addendum: What's Jon Huntsman like politically? To put it bluntly, Huntsman's a male version of Lisa Murkowski, except with more class. Huntsman is known to favor civil unions for gays and thinks cap-and-trade is a good thing. Some educated Utah perspective is offered by McKay Coppins in this Newsweek article; Coppins thinks Huntsman is both a serious and electable candidate. KSL Channel 5 discusses how both Huntsman and Romney might interact on the campaign trail, and the implications of a Mormon vs. Mormon contest.
    Posted by Anchorage Activist at 2:03 PM
     
    #56     Feb 10, 2011
  7. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    And the point to that is what?

    Our current President quit his job of being a US Senator only 1/3rd of the way into his first term. Must be a slow news night for you Zzz.
     
    #57     Feb 10, 2011
  8. You really think the GOP is going to nominate a Mormon to run against Obama?

    Last time I checked, Mormons don't play well in the deep red South states...but maybe this time will be different, eh?

     
    #58     Feb 10, 2011
  9. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Maybe...maybe not. A recent poll showed conservatives more likely this time around to support a candidate that does not represent their principles but that is more electable.

    I predict someone from the far right will actually not win the primary. I'm already seeing the teaparty lose momentum. Unless Obama's approval ratings drop back into the low 40's where everyone thinks they have a shot to beat him, I think they will panic and support a moderate like Huntsman in the primary. I'll go on the record with that.
     
    #59     Feb 10, 2011
  10. Wont happen. The state pays more than the average black man can make. It makes sense for the mom to dump the man and get on the dole. Women, regardless of race, will choose kids over a man 100% of the time.

    Welfare crippled the black community, some say it is by design. At any rate, that ain't happening anytime soon.

    Daniel Patrick Moynihan warned in a congressional report in the 60's what was going on. He was ignored and villified. So it's not like DC did not know what was going on. I got into a heated debate with my parents (both college professors) and other scholars at the time.

    I could not help but have a wry smile on my face when they skewered Bill Cosby for the same thing. No Rearden, our situation is entrenched, just as the Rothschilds are the center of the great banking conspiracy.

    And I know how many Jews felt with Madoff, I talked to quite a few. The shame when you are a minority is often collective. I definitely get that.
     
    #60     Feb 10, 2011