20-50mm size in FX with IB

Discussion in 'Forex Brokers' started by traderhf, Jan 28, 2010.


  1. yes, 50 million notional , that's what I meant
     
    #81     Nov 8, 2012
  2. cornix

    cornix

    I'm testing Alpari UK ECN for the last week or so. Their DOM constantly shows like 20MM+ depth 6 levels each way (levels are in decimals so it's 0.6 pips distance from the best price)... Not sure how "real" that liquidity is, but certainly looks good.
     
    #82     Nov 11, 2012
  3. Zalire

    Zalire

    If you ever have to manage the execution of a 50mm sized order that MUST be done within a few seconds then you'd understand how ONLY a pip or so of slippage is ok (in fact, rather good all things considered.)
     
    #83     Jan 9, 2013
  4. He should have multiple accounts at ECNs like IB...
    And get this done with close to zero slippage.

    It's not a static market...
    Where you are forced to take what you see.

    You should have enough Automation...
    To trade into positions like this efficiently over a few minutes...
    Even show a profit with good Algos.

    If "it MUST be done within a few seconds"...
    Then it must be a fast market and not doable without big swings anyway.
     
    #84     Jan 13, 2013
  5. cornix

    cornix

    SWFX consistently has like 200MM of EUR/USD per side not further than 1 pip away, should be way enough for nearly everyone.
     
    #85     Jan 13, 2013
  6. Surfeur

    Surfeur

    LMAX Orderbook at the moment on real account.
     
    #86     Jan 14, 2013
  7. gmst

    gmst

    The attachment shows insidebid-ask Qty = 50 for EUR.USD at 0.3 pip spread. What is 50? It cannot be 50 million and it cannot be 50,000 USD. Is it 50 retail lots - One retail lot is 100k, so 50 retail lots = 5million USD. This kind of feels right.

    I checked with a friend of mine who trades fxoptions inter-bank and asked him what kind of spread he will pay on a 100million EUR.USD spot order. He said he has never traded that kind of size (he has been trading for last 6 years) and he guessed between 5 to 10 pips. I asked him for a specific answer and not a guess. Then he went and asked an interbank counterparty for a quote on 100 million EUR.USD and was shown a 6 pip spread from Deutsche and 5 pip spread from JPMorgan. This was during Asian hours, he guessed if he goes and asks during London/NY hours, maybe he will get a quote with 3-4 pip spread on 100 million notional.

    What is SWFX - I highly doubt 200million size on EUR.USD at 1 pip spread - given what my bank friend told me. We just had this conversation last week - so the information I am presenting is uptodate.
     
    #87     Jan 14, 2013
  8. cornix

    cornix

    Dukascopy offers access to SWFX pool. I witnessed around 200mm each side there myself during the most liquid hours (Europe/USA overlap).
     
    #88     Jan 14, 2013
  9. Actually, it's even worse.

    LMAX round lots are 10k each on their MTF.

    So 50 == 500k

    I don't think general members on their MTF (the LPs) want to post bigger size since there's no last look feature for them to reject a trade should the market snap against them.
     
    #89     Jan 14, 2013
  10. Indeed. It's 4-5 pips. It's on their site.
     
    #90     Jan 14, 2013