2% stop loss rule?

Discussion in 'Risk Management' started by turkeyneck, Apr 25, 2018.

  1. tomorton

    tomorton


    Good summary. You might have given credit to Alex Elder.

    I'm currently on 1.5% account capital risk per trade. I have been as high as 5% in special situations. I hope to one day be making enough money sufficiently consistently that I can (safely) escape the tyranny of the 2% rule.
     
    #81     Aug 2, 2019
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  4. Saxio

    Saxio

    #84     Mar 13, 2021
  5. easymon1

    easymon1

    Conclusion
    The 2% rule, or any x% rule of this sort, applies to frequent trading at low cost where the effect of a reduction in expectation due to position sizing is counterbalanced by an increase in frequency of trades.

    The 2% (or X%) rule can be used with

    • Medium frequency trading (scalping, intraday, short-term)
    • Strategies with well-defined stop-loss levels
    • Multiple open positions in different markets (portfolio heat control)
    The 2% (or X%) rule cannot be used with

    • Most mean-reversion strategies
    • Medium to longer-term trend-following
    • Strategies that do not use stop-loss
    Alternative schemes for controlling risk when the rule does not apply must be used as mentioned above including but not limited to varying the strategy allocation accordingly.
     
    #85     Mar 13, 2021
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  6. %%
    Easy to beat 2%, by keeping some capital in a local bank.
    As far as one trade goes ;
    IBD guideline of risk 7or 8 % max to make 24% makes much more sense.[NOT a prediction + that's for one trade/risking 2% for the stuff[one trade] i trade /invest in would be a waste time+ money.....................................................................................................]
    [And leverage stuff is much different from cash markets/not just a matter of math adjustments/edit]
     
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    #86     Mar 25, 2021
  7. depends on yo budget
     
    #87     Apr 13, 2021
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  8. Jaagup

    Jaagup

    Actually right!
     
    #88     May 25, 2021
  9. It’s all got to do with the risk appetite you got, some people can be more daring if they have a large capital to play around with.
     
    #89     Nov 16, 2021
  10. nursebee

    nursebee

    IBD used to advocate 7-8% stop loss.
    2% is too much for me for what I get into.

    I prefer something along the lines of a volatility based stop as described in turtle based crap.
    https://www.tradingsetupsreview.com/ultimate-guide-volatility-stop-losses/
    https://www.investopedia.com/articles/trading/09/volatility-stops.asp

    Go read the turtle books for more. I think VanTharp might go into this a bit.

    I don't understand or use Kelly Criterion but think my post and the post that talks about it are the only posts worth paying attention to here.
     
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    #90     Nov 16, 2021