2% stop loss rule?

Discussion in 'Risk Management' started by turkeyneck, Apr 25, 2018.

  1. davelm

    davelm

    Ahh i see. thanks for the asnwer.
     
    #61     Jun 21, 2018
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  2. %% I did a study on GOOG, @ 500; looks like 8% worked much better than 7%. Good uptrend.....
     
    #62     Jun 22, 2018
  3. Rule #1. Don’t trade with scared money

    Rule #2. Risk = Reward

    Therefore, 2% risk is a joke.
     
    #63     Jun 22, 2018
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  4. %%
    Repeating pattern; you should borrow a copy of his stock trading/investing books. 7 or 8% is a bout max.Paul Tudor made much much more, with a 9.99% stop, but that's with crude oil trends, 1987 SIF......, 70% drawdown when he was learning to trade.And that NOT 9.99% a trade; its per month time stop. By the way if I wanted to trade/invest GOOGL, AAPL, FB, I do like QQQ; most likely never goes bankrupt,less commissions, less hassle, better up trends, maybe a bit less gain............................................................................. Sounds like your stops are WAAAAAAAAAY to tight , 8% on 500 is about $40. $500 was a google topping area, like SUPV had one before it tanked LOL. And 7-% or 8%, is an average, Mr Ichan lost a lot more than 9.99% 0n CHK:caution::caution::cool::cool: And if you try to buy FB @100 in a bull market[ most likely never happen] good way to lose a lot. I would not touch FB @ 100 in abull market unless I worked @ FB,+ then I would put more in QQQ, much more diversified bang for buck. I do some single stocks, but almost never low PE. 2015 ,GOOG, 2015, 12 month charts trended real well with an 8% stop;$450-$777; 20 dollar stop is a waste of time/money on that chart.
     
    #64     Jun 22, 2018
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  5. Great post turtle. Clearly Many trading book smart folks post who lack real world experience.
     
    #65     Jun 22, 2018
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  6. %%
    And some that did both,; good points ME . Come to find out, they were much more aggressive sellers + buyers, but they had NYSE comissions rates+ many millions. Later IBD founder, traded/invested with no volume restrictions[ meaning average daily stock volume of a few thousand LOL.] But looks like he made most of his money with much better average daily volume than that........................................................................................:cool::cool:And even stranger ; he never switched from red white + blue barcharts=to red/green candle charts like the WSJ did-LOL
     
    #66     Jun 22, 2018
  7. sle

    sle

    I am surprised/upset nobody brought up Kelly Criterion and set the right tone to this discussion.
     
    #67     Jun 22, 2018
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  8. Xela

    Xela


    That's mostly selection bias: the people who depended on it blew their accounts repeatedly and are no longer here to discuss it ... [​IMG]
     
    #68     Jun 22, 2018
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  9. sle

    sle

    Well, in the long run... :D
     
    #69     Jun 22, 2018
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  10. sle

    sle

    On a more serious note, it’s interesting how little discussion about risk/portfolio management we get here. It’s one of the few things that can be shared safely (as opposed to actual alpha) and can definitely benefit from communal discussions
     
    #70     Jun 22, 2018
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