1st Year Salary

Discussion in 'Prop Firms' started by GatorTrader, Apr 20, 2004.

  1. GGSAE

    GGSAE

    Good point. Trying to give dollar estimates about trading in general is like saying all musicians are wealthy. Apart from the 90% that will fail, those succeeding will have varying numbers based on: what they trade/how they trade and the bucket shop they trade at.
     
    #11     Apr 20, 2004
  2. "T-E-A-C-H-E-R-S," What's that?
     
    #12     Apr 20, 2004
  3. Weasel

    Weasel

    You'll be playing poker with the best card sharks ever in a game that favors the house. Institutions, market makers, specialist, arbs, etc......what they have that the little guy does not are very very deep pockets. They can afford to be wrong or on the wrong side of the market for much longer than we can. How much pain can you take?
     
    #13     Apr 20, 2004
  4. Bluedog

    Bluedog

    you probably will need to get this answer a few times before you take it seriously!!

    I would say DO NOT expect ANY income during your first year (if it happens, great!) and probably even longer! It is also very likely that you may end up losing during that time!

    As it was said on the previous post you will be trading against some seasoned traders with a lot more experience and capital than you! Expect to put in long hours and hard work, the 90% failure ratio may even be an optimistic one! the first couple of years will probably be your hardest and also more exciting time imo!!
     
    #14     Apr 20, 2004
  5. Canibus

    Canibus

    First and foremost have all of your living expenses paid for 1 year out. Don't have any bad debt-credit cards, car notes etc. A lot of it is contingent upon how hard you work. Don't plan on making anything for the first 6 months. Study your ass off, keep a journal and write down your mistakes. If you can survive the first year and you are good the next year you should make at least 65K. Once you know what you're doing and if the market is trading well you should make more than 100k a year. Trading is the hardest profession in the world but if you master it there's not limit to your upside. Not having to have a boss telling you what to do is priceless!!!
     
    #15     Apr 27, 2004
  6. thats because numbers depend on market conditions.
    when volatility returns and u might make 6 fig first year, as it is now u would do very well not to loose money.
     
    #16     Apr 27, 2004
  7. If you have right mentality, the courage, the brains and the determination. you are going to become rich in your first year.

    if you have the rest but no brains, the second year

    if you have the rest but the wrong mentality or the wrong attitude, may be the third, but you are going to figure it sonner or later.

    but if you don't have the courage and the determination, you are never going to make it.
     
    #17     Apr 27, 2004
  8. You know...much of the above makes sense, but I would even paint a darker picture (whoda thought)...I haven't seen too many super-successful ($500K plus) traders in the first year)....but, I agree that the right mentality and determination have to be shackled to some brainpower...without crazy expectations... this is a business AND a career....so you have to have the right combination.....

    Don
     
    #18     Apr 27, 2004
  9. GSCO

    GSCO

    Summer is a great time to start. Good time to learn keystrokes and not get spun (although things were moving last summer). I think this season will have some serious down time. Which is good to learn and run trials.

    good luck
     
    #19     Apr 27, 2004