1929 depression => WWII

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by codedeep007, Oct 31, 2008.

  1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edict_of_Expulsion
    Jewish banking and getting blamed is not exactly a "new phenomenon."

    The Nazi targeting of Jews had more to do with eugenics, I think...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics


    Today we know through genetic science that there is no such thing as "race" when it comes to genes - however, there are regional and heritable differences.


    Germany was in a state of turmoil, where a strong emotionally appealing ideology (through nationalism and symbolism) took the lead and formed public opinion. Just like in the US with the 2001-09-11 attacks, it resulted in a strongly fascist government, and there is no doubt Bush has played the persona of Hitler - appealing to emotional persuasion and social control all over again, playing the nationalism/exceptionalism and symbolism over again. This time it was neo-conservative ideology taking the lead, and not eugenics.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_exceptionalism

    Other fascist governments were the military dictatorships in South America supported and sometimes created by the US.

    Both neo-cons and eugenics claim "supremacy" - ability to lead and rule.
    See the writings of Joshua Muravchik, Norman Podhoretz, Charles Murray, Albert Wohlstetter, Richard Perle, Irving Kristol, James Burnham, Charles Krauthammer, Matt Labash etc.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Weekly_Standard
    http://www.aei.org/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_superiority
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Managerial_state (James Burnham, "old-money" and neo-cons)


    PBS Think Tank -- Richard Perle: The making of a neo-conservative (in his own words)
    http://www.pbs.org/thinktank/transcript1017.html


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_Muravchik
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Podhoretz
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Murray_(author) (he is not "libertarian" by any standard)
    Charles Murray promotes an elite theory with "the cognitive elite" and is a neo-con -- see
    http://www.pbs.org/thinktank/transcript130.html (Race, I.Q., American Society and Charles Murray)
    http://www.pbs.org/thinktank/transcript129.html (A Conversation with Charles Murray)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Wohlstetter
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Perle
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_Kristol
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Burnham
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Krauthammer
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Labash
     
    #11     Oct 31, 2008
  2. Other neo-con pundits are
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Brooks_(journalist)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonah_Goldberg
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Goldberg

    They are a diverse group and mostly denounce the Reagan politics of containment, and like David Brooks want larger government to handle "security" etc.
    See http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4176/is_/ai_n18782931
    Normal, non-ideological people are less concerned about the threat to their freedom from an overweening state than from the threats posed by these amorphous yet pervasive phenomena. The "liberty vs. power" paradigm is less germane. It's been replaced in the public consciousness with a "security leads to freedom" paradigm.

    They are all easily recognizable fascists.

    Some mainstream conservatives understand this - but many are blissfully ignorant... see their comments to David Brooks:
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1810319/posts

    David Brooks in interview with Jeffrey Goldberg: Sarah Palin "Represents A Fatal Cancer To The Republican Party"
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/08/david-brooks-sarah-palin_n_133001.html

    Jeffrey Godlberg: In five years, however, I believe that the coming invasion of Iraq will be remembered as an act of profound morality.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_superiority

    Morality are world views and religious beliefs projected onto others and the surroundings.


    The "global war" has just been fought - and it was a "global war of ideas" in the information age.

    See Donald Rumsfeld's call to war on ideas and the Internet -- a war on freedom of information, freedom of thought and speech.
    http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/2006/tr20060327-12710.html

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disciplinary_institutions
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingsoc
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_101
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_state
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persuasion
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_symbolism
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_fear
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_war
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects-Based_Operations


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_transparency
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_information
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_thought
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech


    Luckily, it seems the neo-conservatives are losing -- but it is not over yet by any means.
     
    #12     Oct 31, 2008