$1600 - $1,700,000 In 5 Months

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by Fundlord, Apr 7, 2015.

  1. motif

    motif

    Which futures brokerage gives 500 to 1 leverage?
     
    #11     Apr 7, 2015
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  2. jj90

    jj90

    I know Andy Man and Mike Ser personally. Not as a close friends but as acquaintances. Had dinner with them a few times. They do know their trading and are fairly knowledgeable about macro/microstructure/cap mkts. I do however doubt Andy's claim on some level. His claim to fame was short silver aggressively in mid Sept 2011 after having caught a smaller move in May'11. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt he made good money, possibly due to a combo of luck, aggressiveness, and research. But I doubt he broke 7 figures in 2011. He could be north of 7 now but back then realistically from the research I've done, he probably went 4 to mid 6 digits which is still a damn good return. Andy's results are said to be from CMC Markets which was the broker he was apparently using. CMC offers CFDs hence the leverage. I have seen the paper results but it is what is it. You either take it at face value or not.

    The other thing is they are running a business. I've spoken to Mike about this and we both understand that. Good guys but they are businessmen thru and thru. They know their product and market.
     
    #12     Apr 7, 2015
  3. motif

    motif

    Then that explains the leverage(CFD)...Not available to most US traders
     
    #13     Apr 7, 2015
  4. i960

    i960

    Pretty sure there aren't 500:1 CFDs in commodities either. Also, who starts with 1600$ in their trading account after trading for a few years?
     
    #14     Apr 7, 2015
  5. About the leverage: you can have a high leverage, but it will be valid till you reach a certain size. Don't think he could use this high leverage all the way.
    About the statement. Years ago I was client at Prudential Bache. I regularly received paperwork from them. One day they send me blank papers with their heading . I wanted to make a joke and made fake statements for the 2 years old son of a broker working over there. I put a few millions on a fake account on these official documents. It was easy to print it on the right place with an HP inkjet printer. Months later I told my broker about it. It appears that there was a huge problem in that office, because they couldn't laugh with it. It was a security problem. They tried to find who made this joke and throw him out. Luckily I was not working there. I apologized for making this joke. Did not realize the implications.
     
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    #15     Apr 8, 2015
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  6. It will boost his returns hugely. If you would have high returns you would understand it.
    Starting fom 1600$ his returns will be somewhere between 50 and 100 times higher. This depends of his profit per trade and also the max position he can take.
    With 1600$ it is much more favorable than with a big account.
     
    Last edited: Apr 10, 2015
    #16     Apr 10, 2015
  7. i960

    i960

    It may be more favorable for monkeying around with return on capital stats but it sure as heck isn't more favorable for trading.
     
    #17     Apr 11, 2015
  8. Indeed, in points or ticks his performance is exactly the same.

    But as an example: if I take my personal trades for the last three weeks and start with a very small capital my returns are 31.87 times bigger than if I start with a big capital. Althought the trades have exactly the same entries and exits. for some people this bigger return is impressive, but it is misleading.

    So you are absolutely correct.
     
    #18     Apr 12, 2015
  9. Jaydom

    Jaydom

    If these so called gurus don't produce an authentic tax return I don't believe any of them. How do all these people make so much money, lose it, then want to TEACH people?
     
    #19     Apr 12, 2015
  10. dealmaker

    dealmaker

    If they only made it in the first place...I do not believe that one has to be a successful trader to be able to teach trading like many football coaches never played Division I let alone pro-football eg Jim Tomsula, Pete Carroll, Bill Belichick....
     
    #20     Apr 13, 2015