16 years 9 months, crazy fast global warming

Discussion in 'Politics' started by futurecurrents, Jun 8, 2014.

  1. This is the only chart you need to understand. It is factual and true.

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    #511     Jun 28, 2014
  2. jem

    jem

    and if you drill down into that chart it must show co2 lagging temperature because that is in the data.

     
    #512     Jun 28, 2014
  3. jem

    jem

    #513     Jun 28, 2014

  4. Bullshit chart, as in irrelevant, you ignorant and deranged douchebag.


    This is the only chart that really matters. Get someone to explain it to you. It shows how man's release of CO2 has caused temps to rise.

    Remember jerm, you ignorant troll, CO2 is a greenhouse gas.



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    #514     Jun 28, 2014
  5. jem

    jem

    break out the data that goes in to the chart troll... and you see that first ocean temps change, then land temps and then co2 levels.

    There is nobody who disputes that.

    you are the moron troll on earth proposing otherwise.
    seriously... you are experiencing a pyschotic split with reality here.




     
    #515     Jun 28, 2014
  6. jem

    jem

    you call my statement a lie...

    there are hundreds of recent papers which state its the sun or the tides.
    I will list some of them below off another site.





    http://petesplace-peter.blogspot.com/2008/04/peer-reviewed-articles-skeptical-of-man.html
    Peer-Reviewed Articles Skeptical Of Man-Caused Global Warming
    Here are many "Peer-Reviewed" articles that should end the belief that "the debate is over" about global warming. It should also destroy the illusion that there is a "consensus" amongst scientists about the causes of global warming. Those propagating the myth of man-caused global warming are simply distorting reality and the facts.....and that is putting it politely.
    Peter

    Peer Review, Publication in Top Journals, Scientific Consensus, and So Forth (Robert Higgs, Ph.D. Economics)



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    many more....
     
    #516     Jun 28, 2014
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  8. You know what's great? Folks are starting to get it. The majority think emissions should be reduced. A great place for the world government to exert power over Tea Party nut jobs.

    Soon jem will be answering to the UN. "Hey jem! Clean the bathroom!" LOL
     
    #518     Jun 28, 2014
  9. jem

    jem

    fc's pyschotic split confirmed.

    you should stay away from sites which require science and data... these types of sites are not good for a drone's mental health.
    you need to hang out with similar non thinking drones... maybe a daily show audience or maher's.

     
    #519     Jun 28, 2014
  10. jem

    jem

    "there is no relationship between the fossil carbon emissions curve and the annual carbon increase curve."


    http://notrickszone.com/2013/10/08/...emperature-is-driving-co2-and-not-vice-versa/

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    The shape of the annual carbon increase resembles the shape of the global sea surface temperature (HADSST3), especially after reliable CO2 measurements began by Keeling after March 1958. Several known events are visible. Counting backwards: the 1998 El Niño, the 1994-5 El Niño, Mt Pinatubo in 1991, the 1986-7 El Niño, Mt Ruiz in 1985, El Chichon eruption in 1982, the 1972-3 El Niño, etc. Every positive peak is an El Niño and every negative peak is associated with a major volcanic eruption.

    As can be seen in Figure 1, there is no relationship between the fossil carbon emissions curve and the annual carbon increase curve. That is because all the fossil emissions carbon is taken up by the biosphere or by the oceans according to Henry’s Law, and then sequestered there. The carbon in the atmosphere is controlled by temperature. This has been described by Dr. Murry Salby in this presentations at Sydney and Hamburg. He compares the CO2 curve to the integral of temperature. Here, I am going the other way mathematically, taking the differential of the CO2 curve as temperature and comparing it to known temperature data, the HADSST3 data.

    - See more at: http://notrickszone.com/2013/10/08/...-co2-and-not-vice-versa/#sthash.gBOX3Ftl.dpuf
     
    #520     Jun 28, 2014