$15 an hour minimum wage killed Seatle’s job market

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Jan 29, 2020.

  1. RedDuke

    RedDuke

    You means deregulation like the one that allowed Being to certify their own planes. Tell it to the victims of families that lost their loved ones in 737 max crushes.

    And how much jobs and billions Being and its supplies lost????

    Regulation is there for a reason, and the reason is that us humans like to take short cuts for short term short sighted profits without regards to human lives and environment.
     
    #41     Jan 30, 2020
  2. NeoTrader

    NeoTrader

    Regulations don't avoid accidents. They cause corruption. I could just as easily present to you an example from Brasil: a couple of years back, when a track that was not ready to be used at Congonhas Airport in São Paulo was cleared for landing by ANAC(Agência Nacional de Aviação Civil or National Civil Aviation Agency) and that caused an accident that killed everyone on board. Your beloved regulation was the cause of the accident in this case.

    So, there is no way to avoid every accident there is, but companies should be extremely afraid of engaging in practices that put their costumers' lives in danger without them knowing of that risk. If this occurs and it is proven, they should be heavily penalized for it. And that should be the deterring for "short cuts".

    Unfortunately, people like you keep supporting ineffective measures such as regulations, which only generate corruption, unemployment, less development of new technologies, while doing nothing about actually preventing malpractices. The time and money wasted in regulating goods and services should be used in making the justice system more efficient in punishing those that engage in practices such as practices that endanger the lives of costumers while not making them aware of the risks of any given product or service.
     
    #42     Jan 30, 2020

  3. If it was not for regulation you would be eating feces infested food at most restaurants and buying groceries littered with bacteria. Thousands would be dead before anything could be done. Your point is not that regulation is the issue, it is corruption. The incident in Brazil was not due to regulation it was due to corruption. someone got bribed to clear the runway because it cost money waiting for it to be safer.

    Dont take corruption and use it as an argument against regulation. Corruption is always there and there are laws against it already. regulation does not cause it...People looking for shortcuts of having to care about your safety are the cause of accidents.
     
    #43     Jan 30, 2020
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  4. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    How did "deregulation" allow Boeing to certify their own planes?
     
    #44     Jan 30, 2020
  5. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    UsualName gave me a like yesterday, so quid pro quo, I have decided to use his/her actual moniker going forward.
     
    #45     Jan 30, 2020
  6. UsualName

    UsualName

    When you have to point to other countries with much less capabiy than America to prove your point all you’re doing is showing you don’t have really relevant examples.
     
    #46     Jan 30, 2020
  7. UsualName

    UsualName

    This is exactly correct.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/27/business/boeing-737-max-crashes.html

    Who wants to live in a country where safety is determined by people will stop using your product when it kills somebody?
     
    #47     Jan 30, 2020
  8. RedDuke

    RedDuke

    From what I understands Being heavily lobbied to certify most of their planes by themselves leaving FAA almost overboard. And they got what they wanted. Essentially the design was bad. The engines were too big for the body, and they decided to handle it with software patch.

    Had there been an independent body certifying 737max, it would never see light of day.
     
    #48     Jan 30, 2020
  9. RedDuke

    RedDuke

    Yes they do not avoid them entirely, but they reduce them dramatically.

    You are very naive if you believe people will refrain from bad acts in fear of punishment. usually it is shareholders who get penalized and top brass walks away with millions.

    Regulations do work.
     
    #49     Jan 30, 2020
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  10. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    The FAA rushed the certification. They didn't do their job. This isn't deregulation. This is incompetence and corruption (on the part of Boeing).
     
    #50     Jan 30, 2020