14th Amendment Time -- It's long overdue to keep insurrectionists off the ballot

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Aug 30, 2023.

  1. smallfil

    smallfil

    The Colorado judges need to be disbarred for abuse of their powers. They act like they are above the law.
     
    #111     Feb 9, 2024
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  2. wildchild

    wildchild

    How can the President of the United States lead a insurrection against his own government? It makes no sense.

    Piezoe has a long history of making ridiculous claims, then presenting no evidence.
     
    #112     Feb 9, 2024
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  3. piezoe

    piezoe

    NO, that's NOT what it says. Read it again, please.
    section 5:
    "The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article"

    This say's congress has the power to enforce, if need be, the Article. I does NOT say "Congress 'shall enforce'...." It says,
    Congress 'shall have the power to enforce...' But it does not require Congress to step in if the Article is already being enforced, as it must be if the Constitution is to be obeyed.

    Section 3 is clearly self-executing. However if it is not executed as intended, then Congress is given the option of enforcement. This does not mean that only Congress can enforce it. And the Amendment does NOT say that.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Statutes, particularly Constitutional statutes, are to be obeyed. The 14th Amendment provides a rare example of a remedy being provided for the instance where a statute is not automatically obeyed.
     
    #113     Feb 9, 2024
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  4. piezoe

    piezoe

    You were given a perfect example of how on Jan 6th 2021.
     
    #114     Feb 9, 2024
  5. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    You're not going to like this B1, but as I read it... he's right. If you interpret it literally at least. They made no allowances restricting the power of lower authorities. Unless there's more to it than what's been presented here.
     
    #115     Feb 9, 2024
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  6. piezoe

    piezoe

    Thank you so much for posting this. The Constitution is so incredibly clear, and yet we have this shit show despite its clarity . I wish we were both on the Supreme court. We would put an end to this absurdity.
     
    #116     Feb 9, 2024
  7. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    I was ready to say: "What am I over here, chopped liver?"

    I'm curious to hear from Ocho on the opinions, him being a lawyer and having the wrong take on this :p since I'm familiar w/his position. Maybe counter Mystal's arguments.
     
    #117     Feb 10, 2024
  8. Please pray tell show me where I was wrong citing some precedent

    Where was my supposed wrong take... Colorado.does not have the power to remove a presidential candidate from the ballot by making their own interpretation of the Constitution....

    Congress took it upon themselves to codify insurrection as a federal crime and thus stepped up. Imagine if we could all define what is and what isnt insurrection for purposes of removing people with no due process.
     
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    #118     Feb 10, 2024
  9. So Colorado MUST remove trump or violate the constitution?? wow that is a convenient argument...
     
    #119     Feb 10, 2024
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  10. wildchild

    wildchild

    All talk, no action. You lied about the Muller report. Why dont yoou go search for some Russian disinformation, you conspiracy theorist.
     
    #120     Feb 10, 2024
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