11 Bitcoin ETFs to trade from today

Discussion in 'ETFs' started by Pekelo, Jan 11, 2024.

  1. you are citing the performance over the last month??? This has to be a joke
     
    #31     Feb 13, 2024
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  2. Thats for a whole year....to date.
     
    #32     Feb 14, 2024
  3. nitrene

    nitrene

    IBIT is currently the 14th highest volume at 50 million shares traded. That's pretty amazing.
     
    #33     Feb 29, 2024
  4. New Bitcoin leveraged ETFS were launched yesterday. Anyone know when options will begin trading?
    • ProShares UltraBitcoin ETF (NYSE Arca: BITU) looks to provide 2x the daily price performance of bitcoin
    • ProShares UltraShort Bitcoin ETF (NYSE Arca: SBIT) aims to deliver investors 2x the inverse of the daily performance
     
    #34     Apr 3, 2024
  5. nitrene

    nitrene

    BITX has been around for a while, but I think it uses BRR (CME Futures) to get 2X leverage, maybe BITU uses the spot index so its less prone to the contango rollover.

    I still don't understand why IBIT doesn't have options yet? It trades like 30-50 million shares a day.
     
    #35     Apr 7, 2024
  6. traderjo

    traderjo

    So lets say an ETF just hold Bitcoin directly, then apart from Bitcoin's own fluctuation ( market risk) Is there not another risk, the exchange where the ETF buys and sells the underlying Bitcoin that holds the Bitcoins could go burst !
    The ETF trades on a regulated exchange but the asset it holds does not ! Am I correct
     
    #36     May 17, 2024
  7. ph1l

    ph1l

    The custodian of the bitcoins (not necessarily the broker(s) the ETFs use) could have issues such as losing the bitcoins.
    https://www.investors.com/news/bitc...andful,Fidelity, Anchorage Digital and Gemini.
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    #37     May 17, 2024
  8. traderjo

    traderjo

    #38     May 17, 2024
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  9. that is not the legal set up though. The bitcoin these spot ETFs hold is through a qualified custodian. This is a different company (legally) from the exchange, and has greatly enhanced protections and standards. For example, and I am not a lawyer, in the event of a bankruptcy you would be a secured creditor and be in the front of the line as opposed to if the exchange just went bust, you would be an unsecured creditor and will be further down the line amongst other legal protections and I understand it.

    Coinbase custodies most of the bitcoin in these ETFs, but it’s not the same Coinbase (and from a legal perspective) as the Coinbase exchange. If you had coins on the Coinbase exchange and it goes bankrupt, you are a creditor of Coinbase inc. if somehow the coins in the etf disappear (which seems extremely improbable given all the standard for custodians) you are a creditor of Coinbase custody inc. different company.

    To be clear, I am not saying there is no risk. I am just saying the risk is way lower than just having your coins on an exchange.
     
    #39     May 18, 2024
  10. traderjo

    traderjo

    if somehow the coins in the etf disappear (which seems extremely improbable) Why ? many people have lost crypto due to such fraud ! The ETF has to first convert real money in to Crypto via some exchange would they not? and what if after doing that the exchanges goes belly up? so the ETF may not have bad intentions but the unregulated exchanges of this funny money might!
     
    #40     May 19, 2024
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