10K in the hole

Discussion in 'Journals' started by slumdog, Sep 3, 2013.

  1. tortoise

    tortoise


    was both, now just futures.
     
    #11     Sep 4, 2013
  2. No offense but you sound like you are addicted to trading (gambling) or something. There isnt any point in trading if you have no positive expectancy (edge), trading small isnt going to stop you from losing money, its only going to stop you from losing big.
     
    #12     Sep 4, 2013
  3. tortoise

    tortoise


    not sure about that..
     
    #13     Sep 4, 2013

  4. So you think its perfectly fine to trade without an edge? Its impossible to make money in the long run with no positive expectancy, any short term success will just be fleeting, or what gamblers call luck.

    Nobody will magically develop an edge over time with the same losing strategy, trading small isnt going to help one find that edge.
     
    #14     Sep 4, 2013


  5. Isn't an edge just a system/method that is in tune with the current market conditions? If so, hit system could maybe start making money if the market conditions happened to change enough!?
     
    #15     Sep 4, 2013
  6. slumdog

    slumdog

    I see no difference between trading on a simulator and backtesting.

    You can develop a system on a simulator that fails when you go live and same with backtesting, you can develop a system that works well on back data but fails in live.

    I prefer to backtest. I believe i have an edge with my latest trading method, however i thought that last year too.

    My edge may or may not be robust. It could work for 1month or 1 year or 10 years.

    In the end you have to test it with real money at some point.
     
    #16     Sep 4, 2013
  7. Mo06

    Mo06

    "I see no difference between trading on a simulator and backtesting.

    You can develop a system on a simulator that fails when you go live and same with backtesting, you can develop a system that works well on back data but fails in live.

    I prefer to backtest. I believe i have an edge with my latest trading method, however i thought that last year too.

    My edge may or may not be robust. It could work for 1month or 1 year or 10 years.

    In the end you have to test it with real money at some point."

    Slumdog, did it work in the past ?

    I mean, did you make consistent profits ?

    If so, then you really need to identify why it stopped making £££
     
    #17     Sep 4, 2013
  8. slumdog

    slumdog

    My 10K is probably sitting in your account then, or you spent it already, if so i hope you spent my money well, on women or booze or towards a fast car :cool:
     
    #18     Sep 4, 2013
  9. slumdog

    slumdog

    I believe my edges (i have more than one strat) still work, i believe i was too aggressive in my risk taking with them. Will see what the future holds.
     
    #19     Sep 4, 2013
  10. volente_00

    volente_00



    Can you give more info ?


    Where you losers bigger than you winners ?

    or did your % win ratio just crater to cause the drawdown ?




    Give an example of what your very last trade was as far as entry, stop and what your target was.


    What was the outcome of it ?
     
    #20     Sep 4, 2013