100k or Blowout - My First Discretionary Day Trading System

Discussion in 'Journals' started by sysdevel99, Nov 10, 2018.

  1. I've been algo trading for quite a while but over the last year I've tried to focus more on discretionary trading. I started live trading a new trend following system this week with the hope to get to 100k within two years or blow out that account. "Backtests" on the "simulator" have shown pretty good results, about 80% return on a YoY basis, however backtests and simulations are even more useless in discretionary trading than in algo trading. To speed up the entire experiment I'll double my P&L on a weekly basis (up or down) to derive next week's position size. I sucked this week so a good chunk of this mini account is already gone.

    Week 11/5-11/9
    Starting Capital: 18k (fully leveraged as part of a larger PM account)
    P&L:
    11/6: -787
    11/7: -538
    11/8: -988
    11/9: 327 (easy day, obvious movements)
    Weekly P&L: -1986
    Double weekly P&L: -3972
    Starting Capital for next week:
    18k-3k9 = 14k
     
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  2. blow out
     
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  3. I expected a successful algo trader to be an automatic successful discretionary trader . I guess I am assuming skills for algotrading necessarily means a deeper understanding of the markets and profits would be easy. What are you trading?
     
  4. S&P 500 and other highly liquid Stocks
     
  5. RedDuke

    RedDuke

    Nothing could be further from the truth. Succesful algo trader will almost always suck as diescdtioary trader. They will subotage themselves.
     
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  6. RedDuke

    RedDuke

    Why why why would you go from algos to discretionary? It makes no sense.
     
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  7. Overall Higher return on Capital. One of my algo challenges is that the systems that have a high return on capital have a size limit, you can't easily scale them up.
     
  8. RedDuke

    RedDuke

    Easy then, just go to higher time frames if the underlying logic allows
     
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  9. d08

    d08

    Many if not most of us are algo trading because we have emotions that can be distracting. Beside that, algo trading means you can have 200 positions opening and closing at once while you're sitting on the balcony while sipping coffee and staring into nothingness.
    Yet, I believe 'mastering' your emotions too much will have a negative impact in other aspects of your life.
    My insignificant discretionary trading experiments have had mediocre to poor results.
     
  10. qlai

    qlai

    Yeah, easy :)
     
    #10     Nov 10, 2018
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