10 States Prepare To Require Presidential Eligibility Documentation

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by pspr, Jan 27, 2011.

  1. pspr

    pspr

    "......All I can say is he is the only president in my memory who has not only REFUSED to present medical records, tax records, birth records, college records, etc., but he has hired a battalion of lawyers who vigorously fight every effort to force him to. Why is he so secretive?"

    http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=255965#ixzz1CFR8lvUx
     
  2. 377OHMS

    377OHMS

    Its clear the states can force this.

    Either the Obama regime will produce a long form certificate of live birth or they will be left off the ballot.

    So, lets see the birth certificate!

    The real question is "what happens when it is discovered that Barrack Obama was never eligible to serve as President?". Does it mean that legislation that he signed into law is illegitimate?

    I sure hope so. :)
     
  3. It's not that easy. If the state of Hawaii says that the "Certificate of Live Birth" is a legal document and other states don't accept it, then Hawaii will go to a Federal Court and will probably win. There's a long history of federal legal precedent supporting Hawaii's right to determine such matters.


     
  4. The Full Faith and Credit clause of the Constitution requires states to recognize official documents from other states. That might well seal the birth certificate issue. It wouldn't resolve other questions, like whether he took up indonesian citizenship or applied to college as a foreigner or traveled on a foreign passport.
     
  5. pspr

    pspr

    The form Obama presented doesn't have a embossed state seal nor a signature. From others I've seen an offical document has both. Some states are going to require the long form showing the birth hospital and doctors signature. Those are available from Hawaii.
     
  6. jem

    jem

    Full faith and credit is a red herring.

    Courts are not stupid... they ask for evidence and proof. If a person is drinking underage, he can't just produce a driver's license from out of state wth an incorrect birthdate on it and say the court has to accept it as proof he is 21. The Prosecutor does an investigation, she may even subpoena the original records or have certified copies made.

    Courts have rules of evidence.
    One of the bedrocks of evidence - is submitting the the best evidence or original info.

    its the same as if the trial were in HI.
    You can walk in with your fake birth certificate and the prosecutor can proffer the original B.C. which one do you think the trier of fact gives more weight to?
     
  7. Here is a copy of information being published:

    In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama's qualifications for the presidency, the group "Americans for Freedom of Information" has released copies of President Obama's
    college transcripts from Occidental College ...

    The transcript indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia while an undergraduate at the school. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California . The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program.

    To qualify for this scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship. This document provides the smoking gun that many of Obama's detractors have been seeking - that he is NOT a natural-born citizen of the United States - necessary to be President of these United States. There is no record of him ever applying for US citizenship..

    Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation of Obama's campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000
    in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records.

    Are these reports true? Who really knows. Only thing for sure is that Obama could provide the information and remove all doubt.
     
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