10,000 Armed Soldiers to Protect Your Inauguration From The People?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Scataphagos, Jan 18, 2021.

  1. I realize this real news reported by mainstream media reporters from the DOJ itself is different to refute with a straight face, but there it is.
    The democratic party has an agenda to push, the white nationalists are out to overthrow the government and that was the proof. Doesn't matter that story has been debunked. It also provides the much needed distraction from the real ongoing threat that Antifa is engaged in.
    This fake insurrection will be exaggerated much like the Wuhan flu has been exaggerated. Let the drumbeat continue.
     
    #121     Jan 21, 2021
  2. userque

    userque

    If it's fake, then those charged should win their cases in court; and should sue the Government for bringing fake charges.
     
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    #122     Jan 21, 2021
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  3. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

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    I think if you landed on this you would be ok. The proof was in the action.

    Its no fun anymore with you crawling like this... pitiful but not deserving of it.

    Vietnam vets and they way they learned to cope with shame by no longer feeling it. Since 1974 or so the corporal has never felt ashamed of anything. He will never start feeling until he is in the hospice, if then.
     
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    #123     Jan 21, 2021

  4. So Trump officials are putting out leftist narratives now?

    You are a great Trump apologist..

    No one said they were looking to kill anyone but zip ties and arms means they were going to do something more than say "hey you bad...me no like"
     
    #124     Jan 21, 2021
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  5. They will be hit with criminal trespass, vandalism, looting, all done on Federal property. Some will get assault charges. They'll get the book thrown at them for these charges, and they should.
    There was no actual insurrection. Had there been an actual insurrection the Capitol police would have been pushed out completely, lost all control of that building and had to fight there way back in. That never happened. It did however happen on more than one occasion when Antifa was occupying property all along the west coast, but we already know local insurrections don't count.
     
    #125     Jan 21, 2021
  6. userque

    userque

    Where'd you get that from, FOX News? Zerohedge? Regardless, it's false information.

    Let me ask you this,

    Why did the Trump administration charge the Trump supporters with it,
    but didn't charge Antifa when they were "occupying property all along the west coast"?



    https://criminal.findlaw.com/crimin...ion 2383.,and ineligibility for public office.
    Rebellion or Insurrection


    By FindLaw Staff | Reviewed by Maddy Teka, Esq. | Last updated January 08, 2021

    Despite our nation's refusal to be ruled, the government that arose from the Revolutionary War has passed laws prohibiting rebellion or insurrection. Although the law is rarely invoked, it carries serious penalties. The following article provides an overview of the federal crime of rebellion and insurrection and how it differs from sedition and treason.

    Rebellion and Insurrection, Sedition, and Treason
    The prohibition on rebellion and insurrection arises in a brief passage found in 18 U.S.C. Section 2383. The law prohibits the incitement, assistance, and participation in a rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States and its laws. The punishment for this crime is a fine, a maximum sentence of 10 years in federal prison, and ineligibility for public office.

    Rebellion and insurrection refer specifically to acts of violence against the state or its officers. This distinguishes the crime from sedition, which is the organized incitement to rebellion or civil disorder against the authority of the state. It also separates the crime from treason, which is the violation of allegiance owed to one's country by betrayal or acting to aid the country's enemies.

    The crimes are easily confused, but if the party wasn't acting on behalf of (or giving aid to) a foreign government they are unlikely to be charged with treason. Calls to rise up against the authority of the government by staging non-violent protests and strikes might be characterized as sedition (if they violated laws relating to these acts), but wouldn't be considered rebellion or insurrection unless the incitement included calls for violent acts such as the destruction of government property or the assault of officers of the state.

    Limited Use of Charges
    Although there are frequent concerns about statements made by media figures, on social media, or even by members of the government itself, there are two aspects of the crime of insurrection and rebellion that tend to limit its use.

    The first is that, since insurrection and rebellion is a crime, private citizens do not have standing to file charges against someone. Only the government itself, acting through the Office of the Attorney General, can bring charges.

    The second reason that rebellion and insurrection are rarely charged is because of the strength of the U.S. Constitution's First Amendment protection of free speech. A certain amount of hyperbole is tolerated, where there aren't accompanying overt acts. The general language of the crime also lends itself to interpretation, making prosecutions a chancier proposition.

    Where possible, the government tends to level charges that are based more on actions than words. Notorious Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy's many armed confrontations with the federal government resulted in a long list of criminal charges, but none for rebellion and insurrection. Their reason for choosing not to charge the crime might be evident in the outcome of the federal criminal prosecution of his sons, Ammon and Ryan Bundy, who were acquitted of similarly vague conspiracy charges after holding an Oregon wildlife refuge in an armed standoff.
     
    #126     Jan 21, 2021
  7. Wallet

    Wallet

    The Bundy’s were acquitted because the prosecution withheld exonerating evidence from the defense and the court.
     
    #127     Jan 21, 2021
  8. userque

    userque

    Fascinating.
     
    #128     Jan 21, 2021

  9. because it was a FAILED insurrection.. that is like saying you cannot charge someone with murder because the guy never died..it never happened.... which is why the law has attempted murder with almost as bad penalties in many cases.
     
    #129     Jan 21, 2021
  10. Snarkhund

    Snarkhund

    If that was an insurrection there would be nothing left but a pile of smoldering stones.

    It was an ill-advised adventure by extreme people like Horn-Hat Dude inspired by 8 months of unanswered rioting and looting in leftist cities across America.

    Crazy folks thought the law (or lack of law) would be applied to them exactly as it was (or wasn't) applied to BLM and Antifa.
     
    #130     Jan 21, 2021