1% per trade

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Gordon Gekko, Jun 6, 2002.

  1. bronks

    bronks

    Hey Lundy, it's past your bedtime aint it? :p
     
    #11     Jun 6, 2002
  2. lundy

    lundy

    bronks :) ,

    i'm in a trade I call sleepless nights, see my new journal.

    what about you? markets aren't on hawaiian time last i checked.
     
    #12     Jun 6, 2002
  3. bronks

    bronks

    Watching the Laker game. I will check out your journal.
     
    #13     Jun 6, 2002
  4. Rigel

    Rigel

    And I think it's hard getting up at 5:30am.
     
    #14     Jun 6, 2002
  5. i'm gonna rephrase my point.

    what is the likelihood of your target? wouldn't someone whose profit objective is 3% get more targets hit over someone whose profit objective is 30%? i'd say a stock moves 3% more often than it moves 30%.
     
    #15     Jun 6, 2002
  6. docarzt

    docarzt Guest

    don't think in % think in R-multiples. Than you have to say what is the probability of a 30% gain with a 10% stop or was is the probability of a 3% gain with a 1% stop.

    In my trading high R-multiples (min 2R better 3-4R) are much better and easier to achieve than a high probability with a 1R multiple.

    sure, this happens, but with good exit rules you probably would have gotten out on the 6% day.
     
    #16     Jun 6, 2002
  7. Yeah, that I agree with. Of course there are more opportunities to catch 3% moves than 30% moves. To give you a daytrading example, take a $50 stock, of course there's many more opportunities to make 10cents than to make $1. It doesn't mean it's "easier" to do though.
     
    #17     Jun 6, 2002
  8. yes, i agree those are equal relationships. but i'm saying, since those 2 examples are equal....and there is a lesser likelihood of a 30% profit target than a 3% profit target, wouldn't it be wiser to go for smaller, more likely gains?
     
    #18     Jun 6, 2002
  9. I'm not sure that the relationships are linear. ie, 1%stop/3% gain = 10%stop/30%gain. So much of that depends on the strategy you employ.

    Whether it's "wiser" to go for smaller gains, I think, largely depends on what you're comfortable with.
     
    #19     Jun 6, 2002
  10. Ditch

    Ditch

    I'm trading the NQ's. I think, that you have a very good point. Yesterday got me thinking about this subject too. Letting profits run long doesn't work in this market. There are hardly any straight moves over 10 pts. nowadays. I 'll start using a profit target of 5 pts. The number of trades where I've given back 5 pts. and got stopped out at 0 again are numerous, so this should improve my bottom line considerably.
     
    #20     Jun 6, 2002