1/4% Tax on all stock trades pushed in NY Times today

Discussion in 'Taxes and Accounting' started by seasideheights, Jan 13, 2009.

  1. JOSEF

    JOSEF

    <i>Guru -- We hear talk of that from time to time, but have not seen any proposals.</i>

    I don't think this is true anymore. Didn't John Conyers put in a formal proposal with HR 676? He proposes single payer health care to be partially funded with this tax?
     
    #551     Feb 14, 2009
  2. cstfx

    cstfx

    This tax is supposed to repay the TARP. Now they want to use it to pay for other shit???

    From the funding portion of the proposal:

    (B) Increasing personal income taxes on
    the top 5 percent income earners.
    (C) Instituting a modest and progressive
    excise tax on payroll and self-employment income.
    (D) Instituting a small tax on stock and
    bond transactions.


    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...Ee4lXnoUh6_ZMOsJA&sig2=LA6vrSNDnKd-qG7X-vVHVA
     
    #552     Feb 14, 2009
  3. Whoever wrote that "proposal" is a total retard!

    A "small" tax here and a "small" tax there and pretty soon all tax *paying* people will be saying adios to USA and hello to some other country that doesn't fuck them left and right!


     
    #553     Feb 14, 2009
  4. cstfx

    cstfx

    Yes, Singapore is looking better and better every day. Jim Rogers got it right.
     
    #554     Feb 14, 2009
  5. I watched the "comittee" headed by Barney Frank grilling the 8 bank ceo's last week.

    All I can say is...what a bunch of morons we have in government.

    They were asking the most stupid questions, designed to kiss the ass of the voting fools in their districts.

    Very sad!

    A few years ago they were pushing the banks to loan to all. That stupid shit backfired, now they think they own the banks and demand all kinds of shit to pacify the "voter/shareholders"!
     
    #555     Feb 14, 2009
  6. gkishot

    gkishot

    Is the proposed transaction tax on the top of the capital gains tax or is it instead of it?
     
    #556     Feb 14, 2009
  7. cstfx

    cstfx

    in addition to the rolled back rates on the capital gains tax.
     
    #557     Feb 14, 2009
  8. gkishot

    gkishot

    So if I am doing one trade every day and I am making on average 0.5% profit per transaction this tax will make me a loser?

    Wow, this is outrages. How much they think are the profit margins of the unleveraged day traders? What do they know about this business? Capital gains taxes are enough and fair IMO.
     
    #558     Feb 14, 2009
  9. gkishot

    gkishot

    If I have $10,000 of the trading capital and I am I am doing 1 round-trip trade every day then according to this proposal the government wants $10,000 * 0.005 * 250 trading days per year = $12500 as tax. That's even more than my initial capital. Is this math correct?
     
    #559     Feb 14, 2009
  10. It's not your capital they're talking about taxing, it's the transaction value.

    So, if you do 1 e-mini S&P trade, then it'd be $40,000*.0025=$100.00 in and $100.00 out.
    That's $200/day, $1000/week, $52k/year (for 1 emini trade/day!).

    I suppose futures traders would then be given a small "break".

    Fucking laughable stupidity in US Senate/Congress! Total ass-kissing morons.

     
    #560     Feb 14, 2009