1/4% Tax on all stock trades pushed in NY Times today

Discussion in 'Taxes and Accounting' started by seasideheights, Jan 13, 2009.

  1. I am so sick of this endless taxation with the usual weak class warfare arguments where the public, with an IQ of less than -12,000, falls for in seconds, EVERY time.

    Ya know, PT Barnum (?) once said a sucker is born every minute, he was wrong. One is born every nano second, at least.

    You can fool enough of all of the people enough of the time to tax everything out of existence, to empower the same a$$holes America fought (Britain) over much the same honor the King taxation but 200 years AFTER the Boston Tea Party.

    How come people *NEVER* #^@^ EVER learn from history???
     
    #4521     Dec 29, 2009
  2. The issue is dead, no transaction tax in the foreseeable future.
     
    #4522     Dec 29, 2009
  3. Surprised the tool admits it wont raise revenue?

    Why?

    It seems like these a$$holes who are hell bent of destroying our lives thru taxes and regulations, are so bold these days they are going to legislate any opposition out of existance before the midterm elections in the USA 2010.

    They can go on national TV, and ADMIT they are trying to stop "irresponsible day trading" and the general public, who is stupid, will remember Washington Mutual and agree "something has to be done" etc.

    They admit they want to control people, and fools vote for them ANYWAY.
     
    #4523     Dec 29, 2009
  4. rc822

    rc822

    During that CNBC segment, they were talking about the transaction tax like it was already a done deal. I definitely did not get a good feeling after watching that.
     
    #4524     Dec 29, 2009
  5. The biggest problem is too many traders do not take this seriously enough.

    Tons here now claim this is untrue, that many take it seriously, but no matter where we are in rhetoric or process, bet on many posting here claiming it will "never happen" etc.

    Reality check:

    These maniacs are true believer statists, and they will stop at NOTHING short of homicide to get a chance like this. Think of it, potentially unlimited (once the retro design the legislation to be amended to change the AMOUNT of the levy later on to ever larger dollar amounts per play, and lower the total amount of the play subject to tax, while first saying it only affects the rich) revenue and control over our lives.

    Statists and leftists fought for national health care since at least 1948, and they are well on their way now, in case you had not noticed.

    They are playing for pink slips, ownership papers, over your entire LIFE.

    Anything less than an equal response in reverse will not cut it, bud...
     
    #4525     Dec 29, 2009
  6. rc822

    rc822




    This editorial is laughable. Does he actually think any Republican will fall for something like this? There is not one GOP congressman that would have anything to do with joining Democrats on anything, as they are going down big in 2010. Good luck finding one GOP congressman that would vote yes on a transaction tax. But the scary thing is that GOP support isn't needed for this tax to pass. That's why were in deep trouble. Senators in states like New York, and Illinois will get all the big players exemptions, and the tax will only apply to small time traders, who would be forced out of business. Like the tax supporter on CNBC said, it's not necessarily about the revenue, but about controlling the behavior. At this point, those advocating for this are starting to discount the revenue it will bring in, and want to basically stop any sort of speculative trading that goes on.
     
    #4526     Dec 29, 2009
  7. muller

    muller

    because of ball-games and burgers. easy living, no hard thinking
     
    #4527     Dec 29, 2009
  8. JOSEF

    JOSEF

    It will never pass unless the Republicans agree to it. Schumer has claimed he is against it. So, all the GOP would have to do is to filibuster it. Will they?
     
    #4528     Dec 29, 2009
  9. #4529     Dec 29, 2009
  10. rc822

    rc822



    It depends. What the Democrats could do is simply attach this transaction tax to their 2011 Budget Bill which comes out next year. As with any budget bill, the Democrats could easily use the reconciliation process to pass it, which would mean they only need 51 votes. The Republicans would not be able to filibuster anything going through the reconciliation process.
    It is however, highly unlikely that the Democrats would use this process, as they would want/need Republicans to vote along with them on something like a transaction tax. As long as the Republicans stand their ground on this, like they did on healthcare, the tax would be much harder (but not impossible) to pass.
    As for Schumer being against the tax, as long as he can secure exemptions for wall street, he could care less what happens to the small time trader, as he get's his mega money campaign contributions from the big boys on wall street. In addition, Schumer has been very quiet on this issue, and that should concern many of us. The other NY Senator, Dem. Kristen Gillibrand has recently stated her opposition to the tax, but with her being a freshman Senator, I'm sure she could be pressured to change her mind, especially with her needing support/funding from the Democratic party in her 2010 re-election bid.
     
    #4530     Dec 29, 2009