1/4% Tax on all stock trades pushed in NY Times today

Discussion in 'Taxes and Accounting' started by seasideheights, Jan 13, 2009.

  1. jksn922

    jksn922




    This whole transaction tax bill is comical. If congress passes it, you know the banks/wall street/prop. firms will get exemptions. Who will then be left to tax? Retail traders. But these traders will be forced out of business if this passes, so where will they get the revenue from with this tax??? They won't be able to get $1 billion a year from this, let alone $150 billion.
    The only way this thing would generate the type of revenue they expect would be to offer no exemptions to anyone. But you know that will never happen, so again, where would the revenue from this tax come from???
     
    #4261     Dec 18, 2009
  2. what I understand is the global bill proposed at .005% won't allow exemptions and needs global agreement so that business isn't moved overseas as with the house bill it seems that since the firms would be able to move they will be exempt. Also canadas finance minister has opposed the tax, I'm just assuming but it seems that in order for Canada to accept the tax the globe has the agree and if Canada doesn't agree it shouldn't pass, seems like the bill mentioned before is just to bypass parlament and put it into effect asap should it pass on a global scale.
     
    #4262     Dec 18, 2009
  3. That's what I thought....damn those vampire politicians. Why can't we impose a tax on these bastards?
     
    #4263     Dec 18, 2009
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  5. leela

    leela

    They would exempt the market makers and broker dealers. Retail investors are stuck with the tax.
     
    #4265     Dec 18, 2009
  6. cstfx

    cstfx

    This is a bullshit article by a fear-mongering author on a fear mongering website!

    This has already been dispelled as bullshit this morning.

    Please people, take a breath and read what it is and who says it before you post about it.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_(radio_host)
     
    #4266     Dec 18, 2009
  7. That is a great read (especially the background info they link in the piece as well). It's good to know that this info is starting to get out there and hopefully will put a stop to this nonsense.

    -Guru
     
    #4267     Dec 18, 2009
  8. Copenhagen Accord:


    8. Scaled up, new and additional, predictable and adequate funding as well as improved access shall be provided to developing countries, in accordance with the relevant provisions of the Convention, to enable and support enhanced action on mitigation, including substantial finance to prevent deforestation (REDD-plus), adaptation, teclmology development and transfer and capacity-building, for enhanced implementation of the Convention. The collective commitment by developed countries is to provide new and additional resources amounting to 30 billion dollars for the period 2010 - 2012 as listed in appendix lll with balanced allocation between adaptation and mitigation, including forestry. Funding for adaptation will be prioritized for the most vulnerable developing countries, such as the least developed countries, small island developing states and countries in Africa affected by drought, desertification and floods. In the context of meaningful mitigation actions and transparency on implementation, developed countries support a goal of mobilizing jointly 100 billion dollars a year by 2020 to address the needs of developing countries. This funding will come from a wide variety of sources, public and private, bilateral and multilateral, including altemative sources of finance. New multilateral funding for adaptation will be delivered through effective and efficient fund arrangements, with a governance structure providing for equal representation of developed and developing countries.
     
    #4268     Dec 18, 2009
  9. Reconciliation Process:

    I did a little reading on this reconciliaton process (Clinton used this to pass the 1994 Budget). It's scary in that it only requires a straight majority (51 Votes) and debate is limited to 20 hours (with no chance of a filibuster). This process is intended to be used for deficit reduction (Byrd amendment) and or taxes, spending or debt.

    It kind of sounds like they just lump everything into a super bill (reconciliaton bill) and send it to the Senate floor where it needs 51 votes to pass). I guess the good thing here is that it wouldn't be prudent for the US to pass this alone (as part of a budget process) without int'l agreement. We all know that getting int'l agreement on something like this is extremely tough so thats in our favor.

    Anyway just kind of thinking out loud as to what we need to watch for in the coming year. Plenty of landmines ahead:(

    -Guru
     
    #4269     Dec 18, 2009
  10. Just back from a night on the town in NYC. That fear mongering article with phony news from the climate summit including a financial-transaction tax was very unexpected and scary. Thanks for pointing out it's not true. All these media stories the past month have certainly been unsettling.

    I decided to rush to press the new petition and post it on the WSJ article tonight too. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704247504574604053568517692.html#articleTabs=comments

    Keep sending me your comments. I will have Molly do another edit and we can easily revise the new Petition.

    In the meantime, please everyone sign the new petition and spread the word everywhere possible.

    "A financial-transaction tax is detrimental to many industries"
    http://www.rallycongress.com/greentradertax-traders-association1/

    or directly at:

    http://www.rallycongress.com/greent...action-tax-is-detrimental-to-many-industries/
     
    #4270     Dec 19, 2009