1/4% Tax on all stock trades pushed in NY Times today

Discussion in 'Taxes and Accounting' started by seasideheights, Jan 13, 2009.

  1. #10221     Nov 11, 2012
  2. bjw

    bjw

    i personally do not understand why us, uk and exchanges in the rest of the world don't just publically threathen to simply throw all euro parties off their exchanges if the concept isn't changed. this would help the anti-ftt lobby within those european countries as well.
     
    #10222     Nov 11, 2012
  3. sheda

    sheda



    What a mess.
     
    #10223     Nov 11, 2012
  4. If the UK, Sweden, Malta, Ireland, and Luxembourg vote against in QMV their votes would add up to 53 (http://www.eurofound.europa.eu/area...onary/definitions/qualifiedmajorityvoting.htm). 88 votes are needed to block.

    Poland, with 29 votes,have expressed reservations about some of the impacts of the FTT and the Czech Republic, with 12 votes, are known to be opposed to a FTT. If their votes are added we could reach 94 votes and successfully block passage.

    How likely all this is is debatable. Personally I am not that optimistic , but it is possible.
     
    #10224     Nov 11, 2012

  5. The Czech Republic's FM, Miroslav Kalousek, has stood with the UK and Sweden against the FTT every step of the way. His vote is pretty reliable. Denmark (7 votes) is another possible "no" vote. Margrethe Vestager, Danish FM, has said publicly that she thinks the FTT is a job killer. If the proposed FTT reaches across the Danish border, then Denmark could vote against.

    But no matter how we add up the votes, it appears to come down to Poland.
     
    #10225     Nov 11, 2012
  6. sheda

    sheda

    Is this water tight I wonder? I see no benefit in raising the costs for consumers of said companys products, I really am curious of the ways companys are going to approach this.
     
    #10226     Nov 11, 2012
  7. tm8749


    Registered: Sep 2007
    Posts: 11


    11-09-12 01:37 AM

    A Republican US House of Rep. would never vote for an FTT, no matter who Obama appoints as Treasury Secretary. It doesn't matter whether he appoints someone that embraces that bowel movement called Occupy Wall Street. In addition, if the US agreed to enter into a Global FTT, wouldn't that fall under a 'Treaty' type of agreement, which would require at least 67 votes in the U.S. Senate to ratify?
    Yes, the GOP had a rather lously 2012 election, losing a few Senate seats, and the presidency, but they did maintain the U.S. House majority by a rather comfortable margin despite the Democratic turnout being almost identical to the 2008 model. Actually, the minority block voters turned out for Obama by a higher rate than in 2008, and yet the GOP only lost a small handful of House seats.
    The way I see it, there two things the House GOP will feel intense pressure on. That is raising taxes on the very top bracket of wage earners (The Rich), and Immigration reform. FTT is not an issue they will give in to. Ever. Even when Democrats had a super majority in the Senate, and an overwhelming majority in the House, not one piece of FTT legislation ever made it out of committee. Yes, more progressive clown Democrats were elected to the Senate, but as long as the GOP holds at least one house of congress, and has the ability to filibuster in the Senate, the FTT is one issue that won't see the light of day in becoming law in the US, or evolving into any sort of Global FTT agreement.

    I see your point , it is extremely unlikely at this time that an FTT will take hold in the united states at this present time. I hope things in this regard stays constant. thank you for your post!
     
    #10227     Nov 11, 2012
  8. TraDaToR

    TraDaToR

    I don't know why but pressure, exemptions, delays are always coming late when it come into force. Look at what is happening with Dodd-Frank, or how the US banks threatened France on ADRs in the last days before deadline... They need to wake up fast on this, this is uber-mess all over the world.

    If I am right, they are trying to force EU resident institutions to keep a day-to-day accounting of the tax they owe( calculate the value of the tax for each trade...LOL...Think about the cost of this for the euro guy on top of tax...LOL) and stick the non EU party with the charge to prove the absence of link with the EU territory...

    Like I am a Wisconsin farmer trying to hedge my crop on CBOT and accidentally trade with a Euro guy, the Wisconsin farmer needs to prove to Germany they don't owe the tax... Wake up Obama ,this is completely crazy...
     
    #10228     Nov 11, 2012
  9. #10229     Nov 11, 2012
  10. vicirek

    vicirek

    Obama just woke up and speaks French now: Trrax Rrhrichh !

    I would not count on this administration to do anything that makes sense. So they will pursue the opposite and might have a second look at FTT thinking about next election.
     
    #10230     Nov 11, 2012