Whether you like Trump or not.......

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Max E., Jul 17, 2015.

  1. Max E.

    Max E.

    Atleast hes going to turn this election season into entertainment, i cant think of 2 people who are duller than Hillary and Jeb, without the donald this election season would be like fingernails on a chalkboard with those 2. Its going to be funny watching Donald call every single one of his detractors a "loser" individually.

    He went from saying Perry should have to do an IQ test (something i agree with) to insulting "loser" Penn Gillette all in a 24 hour period, its going to be funny watching him respond to each and every one of his detractors 1 by 1.

    If we are screwed with Hillary or Jeb either way, atleast Donald will offer an entertaining side show. :D
     
  2. Handle123

    Handle123

    Trump does offer differences like truth of what he believes and doesn't care what anyone thinks, that is rather refreshing as the full time politicians have to watch ever word on what side of fence they walk on or a matter of which side to upset the least. It took Reagan a few tries to learn what to say, perfect his "game". Though those like "Perry", not enough years in human life for him to go from state office to Federal.

    I keep waiting for Trump to tell someone "Your Fired" .
     
  3. fan27

    fan27

    While I agree Trump will make the election more interesting and entertaining, the fact of the matter is, Trump is leading in some major polls. He has become much more than an entertaining side show. I don't think that fact has sunk in yet with a lot of people.

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  4. AMES, Iowa: Republican presidential contender Donald Trump disparaged US Senator John McCain's war record on Saturday, saying the former prisoner in North Vietnam was only considered a war hero because he was captured.

    The confrontational real estate mogul, who has been feuding with the Republican senator from Arizona for days, also criticized McCain's work in the Senate and called him "a loser" for his defeat in the 2008 White House race.

    "He's not a war hero," Trump said at a gathering in Ames, Iowa, of religious conservatives after the event's moderator, pollster Frank Luntz, used the phrase to describe McCain. "He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren't captured."

    At a news conference later, Trump softened his comments, saying, "If a person is captured, they are a hero as far as I'm concerned."

    McCain, a Navy fighter pilot, spent more than five years during the Vietnam War in a Hanoi prison after being shot down, and was tortured by his captors.

    Trump also criticized McCain for failing to do enough in the Senate for military veterans.

    "John McCain talks a lot, but he doesn't do anything," Trump told reporters.

    His comments drew swift denunciations from many rival Republican presidential contenders and became the latest in a series of controversies to engulf the publicity-loving billionaire since he jumped into the race with harsh rhetoric about Mexican immigrants.

    The comments also were certain to remind party leaders, already nervous about Trump's recent rise to the top of opinion polls, about his unpredictability ahead of the first Republican debate in early August.

    The harsh reaction seemed to indicate that many Republicans had lost patience with Trump.

    "There is no place in our party or our country for comments that disparage those who have served honorably," said Sean Spicer, chief strategist for the Republican National Committee.

    Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker said on the campaign trail in Sioux City, Iowa, that McCain was clearly a hero. "Enough with the slanderous attacks," former Florida Governor Jeb Bush said on Twitter.

    "Donald Trump owes every American veteran, and in particular John McCain, an apology," said former Texas Governor Rick Perry, who said Trump's comments called into question his legitimacy as a potential president and commander in chief.

    In a statement released after his appearance, Trump said he was "not a fan" of McCain and added: "I have great respect for all those who serve in our military, including those that weren't captured and are also heroes."

    But Trump said at the news conference he would not apologize to McCain. McCain did not immediately respond to Trump.

    Trump told reporters he used student deferments and later a medical deferment for what he said was a bone spur to avoid military service during the Vietnam War.

    "I was not a big fan of the Vietnam War," he said.

    He made the McCain comments during the summit sponsored by Christian conservative groups. Iowa is the first state to vote in the nominating contests leading up to the November 2016 election.

    Luntz, the event's moderator, launched the discussion when he questioned Trump's recent criticism of McCain as a "dummy," which came after the senator said Trump's candidacy had brought out the "crazies."

    "I supported McCain for president," Trump said of the Arizonan's 2008 run. "He lost and let us down. ... I've never liked him as much after that. I don't like losers."
    © Thomson Reuters 2015

    http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/dona...s-war-record-angers-fellow-republicans-782965
     
  5. "He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren't captured."
    The general points that Trump makes having merit will be overshadowed by the stupidity of comments like this one. It's difficult to take him seriously. He's running his campaign like a game show, which is pretty much what our political system has become, but none the less, the man is kind of a joke. Not really the guy I want with the "finger on the button" sort of speak. As president this won't some half assed real estate deal he's making and can file BK if it goes south.
    In the end, all his competition has to do is let him speak. He'll bury himself.
     
  6. I wonder what trump's opinion is of soldiers who made the ultimate sacrifice.
     
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  7. IN Rome about a dozen years ago, I had a long dinner with Donald Trump.

    Only his name was Silvio Berlusconi.

    Aren’t they essentially the same man? The same myth?

    They have the same obsession with their wealth. Same need to crow about it. Same belief that it’s the irrefutable measure of their genius. Same come-on to countrymen: If I enriched myself, I can enrich you.

    They’re priapic twins, identical in their insistence on being seen as paragons of irresistible lust. If hideously sexist utterances ensue, so be it. Loins before decency. Pheromones over good sense.

    And the vanity. Oh, the vanity. During my meal with Berlusconi, who was then the prime minister of Italy, he grew most animated when complaining about Italian journalists’ put-downs of him as a dwarf.

    A dwarf! He stressed to me that he was taller than José María Aznar, Spain’s leader at the time. A few years later, on a television talk show, he informed Italians that he was “definitely taller” than Napoleon. And a few years after that, at a political rally, he proclaimed: “I am taller than Putin and Sarkozy,” referring to his Russian and French counterparts. “I don’t understand why all the caricaturists portray me as a dwarf, whereas the others are allowed a normal height.”

    We give in, Silvio. You’re a mountain among midgets.

    And we admit it, Donald. No one’s hair sweeps the heavens like yours.

    You two are the biggest, the best, shaming all the rest.

    Now will you please just let us be?

    Trump shows no signs of doing that. Last week he made a new bid to be envied, once again unzipping his accounts and flashing the world his finances. This time he claimed to be worth about $10 billion, which is almost certainly a gross exaggeration. His assets expand with his ego.

    His popularity with voters does, too, according to recent polls, which showed him at or near the head of the pack for the Republican presidential nomination. I don’t expect this to last, but it probably means that we’re stuck with him through at least a few debates.

    So it’s time to search for solace, and perhaps there’s some in knowing that he’s not a peculiarly American creation, nor is he a particular indictment of our political culture and electorate.

    Trump is Berlusconi in waiting, with less cosmetic surgery. Berlusconi is Trump in senescence, with even higher alimony payments.

    Trumpusconi is a study in the peril and pitfalls of unchecked testosterone and tumescent avarice. It’s a commentary on wealth in the Western world: how ardently certain blowhards pursue it, how much the rest of us forgive in those who attain it, how thoroughly we equate money and accomplishment.

    It’s a comedy. It’s a tragedy.

    It’s even a porn flick — or close to one. Trumpusconi stars overlapping cads who cultivate dovetailing images as epic playboys.

    Both men have learned that they can turn such cloddishness to their advantage, by casting it as unvarnished candor. Sloppy talk becomes straight talk. Insult becomes authenticity, even if it’s pure theater and so long as it’s a hell of a show.

    And self-regard goes a long, long way. It can be mistaken for wisdom. It can masquerade as vision. With enough of it, the clown transforms himself into a ringleader. The dwarf looks like a giant.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/19/o...-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region
     
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

  9. wjk

    wjk

    I would love it if all politicians actually spoke what they think. We may not like what Trump says, but his statements aren't designed to get him elected (or maybe they are), but to show us who he is (at least one would hope so...who knows, really?) That said, I am really fucking tired of false statements in the interest of political expediency...by everyone from any ideology. If one can't tell the truth, one shouldn't be in office.

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  10. The Donald's war record. During his time in school, Trump received four student deferments from the draft and another after school for a bone spur in his foot. IOW, just another rich kid draft dodger.
    I really want to watch him have the other republican pussies squirming on the debate stage as he calls them out on their bullshit policies, but once that's over he can exit.
     
    #10     Jul 20, 2015