Wildchild's little problem, his profile pic is now ready to testify against Trump.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Bugenhagen, Jan 30, 2021.

  1. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Wildchild aka "IQ 50" and just recently "me critical thinker" who along with LacesOut and others has been smitten with Trump a long time now. Well shamen Jake is free of the burden of being a dog with a bad master now.

    https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5893816

    The conspiracy theorist who stormed the U.S. Capitol sporting a fur hat and horns is willing to testify against former U.S. president Donald Trump at his Senate impeachment trial, says his lawyer.

    Jacob Chansley, a longtime Trump supporter from Arizona known as the "QAnon Shaman," is one of at least four people facing federal charges related to the Jan. 6 riot who claim the former president incited them to action that day.

    "My client was, just like tens of thousands of others, just like the high school students being jazzed up by their coach before a big game on a Friday night," Chansley's lawyer, Albert Watkins, told As It Happens host Carol Off.

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    He said this does not excuse his client's behaviour but "does, however, mitigate that culpability."

    Trump faces his second Senate impeachment trial the week of Feb. 8, on charges of incitement of insurrection.

    In impeaching him, the U.S. House of Representatives alleged the former president provoked his followers into seizing control of the U.S. Capitol building on Jan. 6 with his inflammatory rhetoric and repeated false assertions that he, in fact, won the recent presidential election.

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    Donald and Melania Trump speaking to supporters before boarding Air Force One for the last time on Jan. 20. (Pete Marovich/Getty Images)
    "The president, in a very propaganda-ridden series of words, basically put my client and tens of thousands of others in a position of genuinely believing that they were being invited by the president to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue to the Capitol to save our great country," Watkins said.

    Five people were killed during the chaos and violence that day. One was a Capitol Hill police officer. Trump later denounced the violence and some of his supporters have denied he was responsible.

    'The man behind the horn and the fur'
    Chansley is a well-known figure at Trump rallies and among those who subscribe to QAnon, a complex and wide-ranging conspiracy theory that paints Trump as the hero standing against an evil cabal of Democrats and Hollywood elites who run a global pedophile ring and drink the blood of children.

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    He's currently behind bars on charges including civil disorder, obstruction of an official proceeding, disorderly conduct in a restricted building and demonstrating in a Capitol building. He is scheduled to be arraigned Friday in Washington.

    In successfully seeking his detention until trial, prosecutors said Chansley went into the Capitol carrying a U.S. flag attached to a wooden pole topped with a spear, ignored an officer's commands to leave, went into the Senate chamber and wrote a threatening note to outgoing vice-president Mike Pence.

    When pressed about those charges, Chansley's lawyer insisted his client was "peaceful" throughout the riot, and that "the spear is not a functional spear."

    "He's a longstanding and committed follower of the shaman faith. This is his attire. It is something that he wears and has worn at not just at Trump rallies, but over the course of his adult life," he said.

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    Chansley is accused of bringing a flag-mounted spear to the U.S. Capitol building and leaving a threatening note for then-vice-president Mike Pence. (Saul Loeb/AFP/Getty Images)
    "You have to get to know the man behind the horn and the fur."

    Watkins said he hasn't spoken to any member in the Senate about having his client testify at the impeachment trial. But he says it's important for senators to hear from someone who was incited by Trump.

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    "[Trump] is charged with inciting insurrection. In order to prevail in a legal action of that nature, you have to demonstrate that, in fact, the state of mind of the incited was such that they felt the president had been responsible for them taking those steps that they took," he said.

    Watson also says Chansley is the early stages of disentangling himself from QAnon. He say his client feels betrayed after the former president left office without offering pardons to him and the others charged for storming the Capitol.






    "I can tell you that my client's process of deprogramming is not one which is complete," the lawyer said.

    "We all are deprogrammed when we're betrayed, whether it's our first love of our life, or whether it's the mail man with our significant other, it doesn't matter. The betrayal is something that requires a process, a process to reconcile. My client is in the middle of that process."
     
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  2. I hope he is not trying to get a lighter sentence by testifying becuase no one put a gun to his head and told him to wear that shit and storm the Chamber and do the shit he did..... the old I was just following orders did not work at Nuremburg.
     
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  3. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    "Watkins said his client was previously "horrendously smitten" by Mr. Trump but now feels let down after Mr. Trump's refusal to grant Chansley and others who participated in the insurrection a pardon. "He felt like he was betrayed by the president," Watkins said."

    Its the old horrendously smitten defence. Nazis just wish they thought of that at Nuremberg.
     
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  4. Wallet

    Wallet

    I thought Trump told them to do it.

    Edit, it’s a stretch to equate the actions of a mob marching into the Capitol to a group who used forced labor camps and murdered millions of Jews.
     
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  5. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    He was not, everyone learns in school that "I was just following my commander's orders" was put down as a valid defence in the Nuremberg trials.

    This is the reason America does not support the international criminal court as the US military does not want to deal with the Nuremberg defence not being a defence.

    In this case with 20 percent or more of the capitol rioters active or having served in the military (as the Shamen did in tbe Navy), they will say they were following their commander-in-chief's orders.
     
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  6. LacesOut

    LacesOut

    Haha you are Tarded Sluttbutt...you’ve been brushing your teeth in the bedpan a la Chevy Chase.

    Warrior guy’s testimony is very valuable to your ilk, I’m sure.
    Impeachment is nothing more than circus for the bread eating mouth breathers.
     
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  7. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    "Smitten", rhymes with kitten.

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    Minty fresh.
     
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  8. Trump got them riled up...they were not coming up with the fraud and election stolen bit on their own.. .theri fearless leader was repeating it all day to get them all upset and then told them to go to the capitol... I have seen less actions being indicted for conspiracy. Trump is not clean hands in this one.

    My ONLY point is that the fucktard better not get a lighter sentence in exhange for his testimony because all of us already he was swayed by Trump's words... we dont need his testimony.
     
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  9. Ricter

    Ricter

    It's a stretch to "equate" the stone mid-stream with the opposite shore.
     
  10. Wallet

    Wallet

    The guy is stone cold fruit loops... I don’t know if anyone is putting much stock in anything he says.
     
    #10     Jan 30, 2021