Why top traders never fear huge lots ** even its sound s0 simple but far away

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  1. kn0wing to trade and have great strategy it's for sure very imp0rtant' .... BUT the next thing is

    s0und so simple and nothing special about this

    Yet this is the reason why top traders never ever fear to enter a position with huge chunk of money...

    I was speaking with a lot of traders about this...
    Always the same answer I get...
    I cannot hold the feeling(psychology) to enter with huge chunk of money on a position...100 lot...or 50 lot

    99.99 % fear this ..why?
    The value per pip is huge...psychological game

    The key to kill this fear f0rever and ever
    Is to understand that
    If you enter with 1 lot or 50 lot or 100 lot
    Its fucking the same...
    Forget the huge number
    And just know
    If the spread is 17 pips
    You need to bring back 17 pips
    To break even...forget the value of the pip

    Its sound simple and stupid yet here is the bullet that kill this fear
    Beacuse
    If the spread is 17 pips
    You need bring back 17 pips
    Forget the value and look on it ,
    In this way
    What the spread?
    It's all relative...

    Here 99.99 traders falls because
    Hell he trading 50 lot..how he hold this
    In fact top traders dont give a shit about the value
    Per pip
    What they know
    Is the spread...
     
  2. Metamega

    Metamega

    So how do you measure spread?
     
  3. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    I doubt you've traded huge (large) contracts / lots because if you have...you would have a better understanding of risk management and you would have never wrote that message post especially when the markets are in chaos from the Pandemic.

    In contrast, if you're referring to institutional traders / funds...you may be right considering its not their money...its the money of their investors. :wtf:

    By the way, you may want to read up on what a margin call and read recent stories about such during the current Pandemic from the point of retails and institutional traders.

    wrbtrader
     
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  4. Its depend if the spread is fixed or flow....
    Even here it's the same

    This is the bullet of top traders that kill this fear fiever
    If the spread is 17 for example on forex..

    They look on it as pips and not value per pip

    In different words
    When traders enter with huge chunk of money on a position they have feeling that the spread is suddenly bigger...psychological effect from the value per pip...
    Yet
    Top traders dont give a shit to the value,
    What they know is
    If the spread is 17
    I need 17 pip back and nothing more
    They even dont think about the value per pip
    Because it's all the same
    If you the value per pip is 100$ or 100000$
    Its fucking the same from the point view of pips
    For example
    17 pips(spread) x 1 = 17
    17 pips(spread) x 10 = 170
    17 pips(spread) x 100 = 1700

    From the point view of pips it's the same
    You need bring back 17 pips...
    This is why top traders not fear to look on the screen
    When they enter and the value per pip is even
    100k
    Its fucking the same

    One traders once told me I dont enter 100 usd
    Per pip...
    I asked him why?
    He told me you are now -1700 usd
    Compare to 10 usd per pip
    Do you get how wrong heis thinking
    Trust me this is the bullet of top traders which kill forever the fear

    I told him wether your pip value is 100usd or 10 usd
    It's the same
    Hhhhh
    Sound simple but hell...99.99% dont get it
     
  5. Of course it's not 'the fucking same'. It's all relative to account size.

    You can't speak of 1/50/100 lots without mentioning account size.

    1 lot on a 100K account is different than 1 lot on 1K account. 50 lots on a 50K account is different than 50 lots on a 1000K account.
     
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  8. You right mate ...that the account size is important but it not my point was dude
    Read carefully before you answer....
    I said why people fear to enter with huge chunk....

    Hell s0 simple
     
  9. FTDK

    FTDK

    There is no such thing as a fixed spread in a real market.
     
  10. I beat the monster...99.99% wether you believe or not it dosent change the facts
    S0 good luck
    I also exploited the system in illegal way....top hackers/exploiters know this trick
    It's called dual point....
    But its illegal
    But I trade legally only
    I exploited it for the fun

    There are hackers, exploiters which never l0se
    I have video where there list of trades only winnings...
    I kicked out from alot platforms
    Because winnings
    So I lose here and there
    Do you know what is to make 1000 orders and all of them winnings

    I will upload the video here
     
    #10     Apr 12, 2020
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