Why Futures Oil Calendars showing as negative.

Discussion in 'Interactive Brokers' started by ShadowHunter, Dec 17, 2020.

  1. On IB.

    CL Dec 21 47.81 (last price)
    CL Dec 22 46.36 (last price)

    CL Dec 21 - CL Dec 22 (12m calendar) -1.41 (last price)

    Now correct me if I am wrong but I always thought big number minus small number = positive number not a negative number lol

    should be the calendar be +1.41 not -1.41.

    Can anyone enlighten me on why this is?

    cheers.
     
  2. maxinger

    maxinger

    CL dec 21 - CL dec 22 = +1.41


    check your platform and see if it is

    CL dec 21 - CL dec 22 or

    - ( CL dec 21 - CL dec 22 )
     
  3. definitely no minus sign there. I am expecting IB to come back to me and say 'thats just the way we do it at IB' lol.

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  4. The further out future is at a discount, if you buy the spread you are buying Dec 22 and selling Dec 21 - hence negative is correct. If in doubt, right click on the order to see the details of the combo.
     
  5. maxinger

    maxinger

    Different brokers/ trading platforms use different ways of computing spread.
    it is a headache if we have many brokers and trading platforms.


    some take near month minus far away month.

    some take far away month minus near month.



    definitely
    CL dec 21 - CL dec 22 = +1.41 NOT -1.41
     
  6. thanks chaps all the firms/brokers I have traded at in the past have a calendar as near month minus far month. I guess IB do it the other way around to be awkward sods. Somehow I knew this would come back to 'this is just how we do it at IB'.

    I guess it is going to be the same with margining a fly with them 'thats just how we do it at IB'. :D