Why are there no bids for OTM options on some stocks?

Discussion in 'Options' started by sacbnc, Dec 27, 2020.

  1. sacbnc

    sacbnc

    Sometimes I see no bids at all for OTM options for certain stocks, why is this?

    Specifically, is this a property controlled by the company itself? Is this broker related?
     
  2. If no one wants to buy them there will be no bid. If there is no bid, there is no market.
     
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  3. guru

    guru

    Yeah, it’s because you’re not bidding. Seriously. If you don’t want to bid then why someone else should?
    Or if you think you can get a good deal (and someone may sell you the option for your bid price) then place your bid. Nothing stops you.
     
  4. deltaf0rce

    deltaf0rce

    View it another way. Your friend is offering you the opportunity to buy his home at 20% over assessed value. All you have to do is pay him 1% extra on top of the extra 20% to secure that once in a lifetime deal. Now go bid him .25% premium instead of 1%, maybe he’ll accept it.
     
  5. FSU

    FSU

    Quite often there is a bid for these options, just no quoted bid. On less liquid options, you might see a quote of no bid at 1 or even no bid at 5. This doesn't meant there is no real bid. The "real' market can be quite tight.

    I was trading an out of the money leap put Thursday were the market was no bid at 2. The "real" market was .70-.85. If I put a .70 bid, others were happy to join me.
     
  6. ajacobson

    ajacobson

    Check to see if the listing exchange has what is called a "derived order" rule. You won't show a market - even where there is interest when the exchange has a minimum size and maximum width policy. The rule, if they are still around post all the mergers. A customer wanting to buy 10@$1 bids $.50 for one in a max-width of $.50 market. The trading engine derives a $1 offer and the DPM has to eat them, plus if it's multiply listed you are pretty likely to get banged for 10.
     
  7. taowave

    taowave

    Because those rat bastard market makers are counting on you to fat finger an order and hit a zero bid or lift some preposterous offer:)
     
  8. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    or more likely to avoid a smart customer from hitting them and they are stuck in an asymmetric bet with an informed customer.
     
  9. taowave

    taowave

    Perhaps,but why do they mysteriously tighten the market as soon I improve on their truck wide market

     
  10. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    I think they can ascertain you are unlikely informed money.
     
    #10     Dec 27, 2020
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