Which system is better?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by cornholio, Mar 8, 2014.

Which system is better?

  1. 60% Win-rate/1:1 RRR

    12 vote(s)
    54.5%
  2. 40% Win-rate/2:1 RRR

    10 vote(s)
    45.5%
  1. Which system is better, 60%winrate/1:1RRR or 40% Winrate/2:1RRR? They should make the same amount right?;-)
     
  2. Redneck

    Redneck

    What ever "system" closely mimics / matches your unique personality

    Otherwise you'll be pissin in the wind..., and more importantly fighting yourself


    RN
     
  3. kut2k2

    kut2k2

    SAS(A) == 4*(.6/1 - .4/1)*(.6*1 - .4*1)*((.6*1)/(.4*1)) == 0.24

    SAS(B) == 4*(.4/1 - .6/2)*(.4*2 - .6*1)*((.4*2)/(.6*1)) == 0.107

    The first system is much better.
     
  4. Good answer Redneck. :)

    Some traders like to win often (even if it's only a little) and cannot stand losing 3, 4 or 5 times in a row.

    Others like to win big, even if infrequently.

    The rational/logical way of course is to trade the system with the maximum positive expectancy, but that's another story...
     
  5. I have no idea what you just calculated, but my gut tendz to agree. My disc stats looks pretty much like system 1. Even though I hate seeing positions run on without me, the thought of moderate profits turning to a loss has hardwired my brain to not let them get away.

    I'm no expert with systems but # 2 appears to have a higher expectancy. Who knows how often each one will take trades, OP didn't specify :confused:
     
  6. Woah, where did you get this formula and what's it called? I also figured out that the 60% system is better but by doing it the hardway by doing 100 theoretical trades in excel and comparing the results. I was thinking since the calculated "edge" of both systems is the same but the 60% makes more that it has to do something with compounding and the fact that the 60% has more winning trades?
     
  7. kut2k2

    kut2k2

    :)

    The short answer is just click on either of the "SAS" in the post above, they are links.

    The long and tragicomical answer is in the two links below. WARNING: this is akin to watching legislation or sausage being made, two things we are advised to never do. :eek:

    System Performance Score

    System Achievement Score
     
  8. Ah you came up with the formula yourself nice.;-)
     
  9. Another thing is that I heard that most professional traders would go with the lower win-rate system because it is more "robust". Everything is good in theory, but a real live test would be best.
     
  10. fjpenney

    fjpenney

    Alternatively, you could run a Monte Carlo analysis in which case you would find the returns are very similar but System B would have a higher drawdown. In my analysis, System A had a Return-DD of 2.38 versus 1.55 for System B. Given almost identical returns, one would chose the system with the lower DD which is System A.
     
    #10     Mar 9, 2014