Which etf will best track bitcoin?

Discussion in 'Crypto Assets' started by wxytrader, Oct 11, 2024.

  1. Is there any reason to even hold bitcoin at this point if you can now load up on IBIT or one of the new spot etf's? There is the expense ratio, so if its 0.15% and you invest 100k, you will be paying $1500 per year to hold the position?

    Would you load up on one or blend all or some of the etf's? IBIT has the best name so it will probably continue to be the most popular. I might do 75% IBIT, 25% BITB...or maybe some HODL too just for the name. :)

    Symbol ETF Name
    IBIT iShares Bitcoin Trust ETF
    GBTC Grayscale Bitcoin Trust
    FBTC Fidelity Wise Origin Bitcoin Fund
    ARKB ARK21Shares Bitcoin ETF
    BITB Bitwise Bitcoin ETF Trust
    BTC Grayscale Bitcoin Mini Trust (BTC)
    BITO ProShares Bitcoin ETF
    BITX 2x Bitcoin Strategy ETF
    ARKW ARKNext Generation Internet ETF
    HODL VanEck Bitcoin ETF
    BRRR Coinshares Valkyrie Bitcoin Fund
    BTCO Invesco Galaxy Bitcoin ETF
    EZBC Franklin Bitcoin ETF
    BITU ProShares Ultra Bitcoin ETF
    BTCW WisdomTree Bitcoin Fund
    BITQ Bitwise Crypto Industry Innovators ETF
    WGMI Valkyrie Bitcoin Miners ETF
    BITI ProShares Short Bitcoin ETF
    STCE Schwab Crypto Thematic ETF
    BTF Valkyrie Bitcoin and Ether Strategy ETF
    SPBC Simplify US Equity PLUS GBTC ETF
    SBIT ProShares UltraShort Bitcoin ETF
    BITS Global X Blockchain & Bitcoin Strategy ETF
    ARKA ARK21Shares Active Bitcoin Futures Strategy ETF
    BITC Bitwise Bitcoin Strategy Optimum Roll ETF
    DEFI Hashdex Bitcoin ETF
    BETH ProShares Bitcoin & Ether Market Cap Weight ETF
    BTOP Bitwise Bitcoin and Ether Equal Weight Strategy ETF
    SATO Invesco Alerian Galaxy Crypto Economy ETF
    BETE ProShares Bitcoin & Ether Equal Weight ETF
    BLKC Invesco Alerian Galaxy Blockchain Users and Decentralized Commerce ETF
    BITW Bitwise 10 Crypto Index Fund
     
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  2. 2rosy

    2rosy

    The one benefit of bitcoin is transferability. If you own it, own it yourself
     
  3. Well technically an etf is more transferable because I can sell and have access to my money immediately. With bitcoin you would have to move to an exchange, sell it, move it to your bank, wait 3-7 business days.

    If the new spot etf's track bitcoin close to 1:1 then there isn't really any benefit to owning btc as far as I can tell.
     
  4. deaddog

    deaddog

    you can't sell when the market is closed. BTC 24/7
     
  5. Yes but that doesn't help when I have to wait 5-7 business days to move the funds from the exchange to my bank. :)
     
  6. Coin Flip

    Coin Flip

    Yes, at least in the case of Grayscale Bitcoin ETF, you don't get to participate in any forks.

    For example, when Bitcoin split up in to Bitcoin and Bitcoin cash, if you hold Bitcoin you also receive your share of Bitcoin cash, but if you hold the ETF you get nothing.
     
  7. True, but I typically one of the splits will be favored and the other will drop out...like bitcoin cash did....but you don't want to move one to the other because you aren't sure which one will take :)

    But good point...also don't have to deal with the hassle of a split. I double spent some bch or bsv after the split, so I lost like 1/2 of my stash (5k) trying to do it manually with gemini or something...so went googling and I wasn't the only one, there was a group online that was being recommended that would trace it back to the block chain. You just had to send the txid and your wallet id etc. I wasn't expecting much but they were true to their word, and the coin was returned to my wallet the next day minus the 10% fee. They were like a modern day robin hood. :)

    This is basically what I was thinking as far as the difference.
    https://www.investopedia.com/pros-and-cons-of-crypto-etfs-8362499#:~:text=Direct Investment in Cryptocurrency,higher fees and less control.
     
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  8. Coin Flip

    Coin Flip

    Not sure you are following what I am saying.

    I am saying that if you own 1 Bitcoin, when it forked you automatically got 1 Bitcoin cash which was worth $240 at the time. Obviously you can either hold it or sell it, but it was worth $240 at the time of the fork.

    If you owned 1 share of Grayscale Bitcoin ETF, you didn't get 1 Bitcoin cash at the time of the fork. So you are $240 worse off.
     
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  9. Yes I get what you are saying, but one of the forks if bitcoin forks will likely go to zero, so you aren't really going to gain anything because you don't know which one will take, so you aren't going to sell either for risk of hitching to the wrong wagon...this is why they double your holdings to protect you, not enrich you. :)
     
  10. Darc

    Darc

    All Cryptos can really move at times. Holding a Crypto ETF while the NYSE is closed but Bitcoin open, is the problem. Almost makes it a Day trade only situation imo.

    Unless you're "one of those" who never cut Losses :p
     
    #10     Oct 11, 2024
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