When stock is down, companies buy back undervalued stock. But SBUX buys faster because it is up?!

Discussion in 'Trading' started by noddyboy, Sep 4, 2019.

  1. noddyboy

    noddyboy

  2. bone

    bone

    I'm not at all convinced that Corporate Treasurers "time" share buybacks in terms of relative value investing per se.

    I recall reading a piece a couple months ago from Goldman Sachs that S&P 500 companies had bought back over $800B in shares in 2018 and they forecast that the number would be over $900B in 2019. And we will surely have a market correction in the near to midterm future that makes those share buyback prices seem rich.
     
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  3. noddyboy

    noddyboy

    Maybe I read the article wrong. What is pull forward of buybacks mean anyway?
     
  4. noddyboy

    noddyboy

    Regarding share repurchases, Grismer said the company chose to pull forward about $2 billion in share repurchases that were originally planned next year to the current fiscal year.
     
  5. bone

    bone

    For TAX treatment purposes Starbucks is going to spend the money in 2019 instead of '20 according to the article - at least the way I interpret it.
     
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  6. qwerty11

    qwerty11

    mngt just buys back for bigger payout!!

    (i'm sorry there's no deep science behind it)
     
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  7. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    Typically companies buy their stocks when those stocks are expensive. They will accelerate those purchases if the market has a blip of a sell off.

    If you read the book “The Outsiders” it’s about a bunch of ceos who skirted this trend and instead bought back their shares when the stocks were depressed. They created incredible returns for their shareholders.
     
  8. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    Likely to buoy the stock as he said growth was slowing.
     
  9. %%
    And it worked much better this year; than last.''Pull forward of buybacks'' press release maybe was trying to limit downside.LOL Can be tough when earnings forecast gets cut; its a wonder it finished up by any measure. If i buy ready made coffee, which is seldom;i go to MCD:D:D, :D:D:D:D:D:D
     
  10. noddyboy

    noddyboy

    I like how Warren buffet does it. Buy when it is under fair value. If SBUX can say it is wise to buy because it has gone up so fast, then there is no logic. Just buy anytime! Up or down...doesn't matter.
     
    #10     Sep 4, 2019