What is the best way to hedge a long SPY position against a future market crash?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Phill Twist, Sep 11, 2015.

  1. What is the best way to hedge a long SPY position against a future market crash? Going 50/50 on SPY/TLT won't help. SPY puts are expensive. Stop loss orders cause $$$ loss due to head-fakes and flash crashes that recover quickly. Selling covered calls doesn't bring much protection. What are some other ideas?
     
  2. rmorse

    rmorse Sponsor

    Every hedge will have it's cost. You might be better off just reducing your "long market" position and adding strategies that are non-correlated to your portfolio.
     
  3. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    I bought Dec risk reversals: long put in mid 1800's and short calls in the mid 2000s. There is no such thing as a free hedge.
     
  4. A collar is about the lowest cost (in terms of net debit) protection for a long stock position. The main "cost" is having your long stock called away if the short calls go ITM.
     
  5. ktm

    ktm

    If you find anything that provides solid protection at a cheap price, please let us know. I've been looking for it for 30 years now. There's a reason those tails are fat!
     
  6. Short ES
     
  7. have spare cash to buy the dip

    if you bought the dip every year since 2009 you're at the top 1% of traders
     
  8. That psychology is much like the one when everyone thought real estate only goes up
     
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  9. loyek590

    loyek590

    yes, a simple asset allocation fund will do that for you. The problem with selling Spy to reduce exposure is depending on where you got in you could be looking at huge cap gains tax. But my all time favorite hedge is cash. But if you don't want to sell any SPY off the top of my head ES sounds like the simplest deal.

    we would also need to know something about the investor, like income and age and future plans

    I wouldn't do anything until I talked to a CPA and knew exactly what the tax implications are going to be
     
    Last edited: Sep 11, 2015
  10. Not an easy game plan for collar.
    The best case is the price hit your short call and you close with profit.
    Ask yourself what you will do if it hit your long put with a loss? Close with profit or roll over to next month?
     
    #10     Sep 11, 2015