We're all going to pay for the unvaccinated

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Aug 23, 2021.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    We're all going to pay for the unvaccinated
    https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-u...pay-013d7505-398b-4ff0-9501-53478ad615de.html

    The spike in hospitalizations of unvaccinated adults — which are almost all preventable — cost the U.S. health system more than $2 billion in June and July, per a KFF analysis.

    Why it matters: Those costs are ultimately shouldered by all of us, not just those who remain unvaccinated and then get severely ill.

    By the numbers: A coronavirus hospitalization costs, on average, around $20,000.
    • Using CDC data, KFF estimated that there were around 37,000 preventable coronavirus hospitalizations among unvaccinated adults in June and another 76,000 in July.
    Between the lines: Someone has to pay for these hospitalizations. Although COVID patients themselves may be on the hook for at least part of the bill, a large chunk of the tab will fall on either private or public insurers.
    • And health insurance isn't free — we all pay for it either through our premiums or our taxpayer dollars.
    • "In addition to preventable direct monetary costs for treatment of unvaccinated people, re-opening of schools and economic recovery also suffers as increasing COVID-19 cases continue to put Americans at risk of avoidable severe illness and even death," the analysis writes.
    The bottom line: We're all paying for the unvaccinated, and the big question is how large we'll let the bill become.

    Go deeper: U.S. uninsurance rate unchanged during pandemic despite layoffs
     
  2. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Well they could start administering Ivermectin as a therepeutic prophylactic for future problems with these people.

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  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Let's take a look at what the wilful unvaccinated have cost us in June and July in the U.S. The amount is only going to greatly accelerate in August.

    Unvaccinated Americans hospitalized with COVID-19 cost the U.S. health care system $2.3 billion in June and July
    The cost of preventable hospitalizations is ‘borne not only by patients but also by society more broadly,’ the report says
    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/u...3-billion-in-june-and-july-report-11629737443

    Unvaccinated Americans who were hospitalized with COVID-19 cost the U.S. health care system $2.3 billion in June and July, according to a new report from The Peterson Center on Healthcare and the Kaiser Family Foundation — and that’s “likely an understatement,” the researchers wrote.

    The report analyzed CDC data, finding there were 37,000 preventable COVID hospitalizations in June and another 76,000 in July among unvaccinated adults in the U.S.

    An average COVID hospitalization costs roughly $20,000, the report said, meaning “these largely avoidable hospitalizations have already cost the U.S. health system billions of dollars since the beginning of June.”

    The report only focused on hospitalizations of adults in the U.S., as some children are still ineligible to receive the vaccine. An estimated 98.3% of the adults hospitalized due to COVID in June and July were unvaccinated, the report said.

    The authors used conservative assumptions to arrive at the $2.3 billion figure, the report said, adding that “this ballpark figure is likely an understatement of the cost burden on the health system from treatment of COVID-19 among unvaccinated adults.”

    “The monetary cost of treating unvaccinated people for COVID-19 is borne not only by patients but also by society more broadly,” the report’s authors wrote.

    And though there is a societal cost to the free vaccines — as the research, development and distribution has been largely funded by the federal government — the report concludes that “the vaccines save the U.S. health system money in the longer run by preventing costly hospitalizations.”

    In addition to the direct monetary strain of treating unvaccinated people, school reopenings and economic recovery also continue to suffer, the report said.

    After a short-lived decline in new COVID cases right after the vaccines became widely available earlier this year, cases have continued to surge across the U.S. this summer as the delta variant became the dominant strain of the virus.

    The seven-day moving average as of Aug. 20 was 137,188 cases per day and 738 deaths per day, according to the CDC. Hospitalizations were up 43% to 92,482, the most since Feb. 6, according to the New York Times tracker.

    Roughly 51.5% of the total population is now fully vaccinated, and 71% of those who qualify for the vaccine have received at least one shot. As the more contagious delta variant continues to spread, herd immunity is even further out of reach. Experts say up to 85% or 90% of the population will need to be immune to the virus to reach herd immunity.


    The report notes that the vaccines — which are highly effective at preventing serious illness, hospitalization and death — have been widely available since mid-April, but vaccination rates have stalled in some states and among young people.

    The FDA formally approved BioNTech BNTX, +9.58% and Pfizer’s PFE, +2.48% COVID-19 vaccine on Monday.

    Now that at least one vaccine has received full FDA approval, there is hope that vaccination rates could go up, as about 30% of unvaccinated American adults, according to a Kaiser Family Foundation COVID-19 tracking project, said they would be more likely to get a COVID-19 vaccine if it were fully approved by the FDA.
     
  4. Wallet

    Wallet

  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Are alcoholics clogging hospitals so badly that elective surgeries cannot be performed? Are alcoholics accounting for over 50% of the the hospital beds taken? Are alcoholics taking nearly all the ICU beds?

    Your assertions (on the other thread) trying to claim that rightful shaming of the willful unvaccinated who are causing death & misery across our society while preventing us from returning to normalcy is somehow the equivalent to the vitriol poured on Jews being sent to concentration camps is the height of hypocrisy.
     
  6. Wallet

    Wallet


    Didn’t even get to the billions spent on drug addiction.

    You’re the one wanting to segregate in society, deny medical services, force employers to terminate. Don’t preach to me.

    Anytime you relegate people, promoting hatred towards them...... if the shoe fits.
     
    Last edited: Aug 23, 2021
  7. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    hey, you're the one drawing parallels between anti-vaxxers and degenerate druggies and alcoholics. Like you said, if the shoe fits...

    whitey never cared about blacks doing crack or Indians have alcohol problems