Vote Trump or face a nuclear war

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jem, Oct 13, 2016.

  1. jem

    jem

    while I don't like the idea of Russia making a warning like this.
    it does show how terrible clinton obama has been with respect to world peace.

    clinton is very dangerous and her policies unstable.




    http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/13/putin-ally-tells-americans-vote-trump-or-face-nuclear-war.html


    Donald Trump as president next month or risk being dragged into a nuclear war, according to a Russian ultra-nationalist ally of President Vladimir Putin who likes to compare himself to the U.S. Republican candidate.


    Vladimir Zhirinovsky, a flamboyant veteran lawmaker known for his fiery rhetoric, told Reuters in an interview that Trump was the only person able to de-escalate dangerous tensions between Moscow and Washington.

    By contrast, Trump's Democratic rival Hillary Clinton could spark World War Three, said Zhirinovsky, who received a top state award from Putin after his pro-Kremlin Liberal Democratic Party of Russia (LDPR) came third in Russia's parliamentary election last month.

    Many Russians regard Zhirinovsky as a clownish figure who makes outspoken statements to grab attention but he is also widely viewed as a faithful servant of Kremlin policy, sometimes used to float radical opinions to test public reaction.

    "Relations between Russia and the United States can't get any worse. The only way they can get worse is if a war starts," said Zhirinovsky, speaking in his huge office on the 10th floor of Russia's State Duma, or lower house of parliament.
     
  2. Snarkhund

    Snarkhund

    I'm concerned about North Korea as well.

    Buying them off and supplying oil and food aid has not seemed to serve as any deterrent to N. Korea proliferating nuclear technology and pursuing a nuclear ballistic missile program.
     
  3. Sounds familiar.
     
  4. jem

    jem

    you left out the next part... putting it in a more useful context... he is a Kremlin policy servant

    "Many Russians regard Zhirinovsky as a clownish figure who makes outspoken statements to grab attention but he is also widely viewed as a faithful servant of Kremlin policy, sometimes used to float radical opinions to test public reaction".



    familiar tactic... of yours... lack of context

     
  5. Just gets crazier and crazier.






    Speaking about jem of course.
     
  6. JamesL

    JamesL

    Mikhail Gorbachev warns world is at 'dangerous point' amid US-Russian face off over Syria

    Soaring tensions between the United States and Russia have brought the world to a “dangerous point,” Mikhail Gorbachev warned on Monday.

    The former Soviet leader’s intervention came amid a collapse in East-West relations over the war in Syria that has seen the Kremlin openly threaten to shoot down Western aircraft, drawing comparisons with the worst crises of the Cold War.

    "I think the world has reached a dangerous point," Mr Gorbachev, 85, told state news agency RIA Novosti.

    "I don't want to give any concrete prescriptions but I do want to say that this needs to stop. We need to renew dialogue. Stopping it was the biggest mistake."

    The United States suspended months of talks with Russia over Syria on October 3, accusing Russia of ripping up a ceasefire deal in order to launch a relentless aerial assault on rebel-held areas of Aleppo.

    John Kerry, the US Secretary of State, called on Russia and the Syrian government to be investigated for war crimes over the Aleppo campaign, a call that was echoed by France’s foreign minister on Monday.

    Russia in response has accused the US of “unfriendly” actions, and deployed nuclear-capable missiles to its Baltic exclave of Kaliningrad, and warned that it would shoot down Western aircraft if the US launched airstrikes against pro-government targets in Syria.

    Vladimir Putin also pulled out of and arms-control agreement aimed at reprocessing weapons-grade plutonium and demanded the US roll back its military commitment to Nato members in eastern Europe, saying that expansion of the alliance had threatened Russian security.

    "It is necessary to return to the main priorities. These are nuclear disarmament, the fight against terrorism, the prevention of an environmental disaster," Mr Gorbachev said, in a rare intervention in global affairs.

    "Compared to these challenges, all the rest slips into the background," he added.

    Mr Gorbachev ruled the Soviet Union from 1985 until it broke up in 1991. He is widely credited with ending the Cold War and building the architecture of nuclear arms control in a series of summits with Ronald Reagan.

    He has rarely intervened in politics since, but has spoken out to criticize both the Kremlin and the West over the collapse in relations.In 2014 he blamed American "triumphalism" for fueling what he warned could become a "new Cold War."

    The recent collapse of relations with the West has been accompanied by open speculation in the Russian media about the dangers of all-out war with the US. Some public figures have compared the confrontation over Syria with the Cuban Missile Crisis.

    Frank-Walter Steinmeier, the German foreign minister, warned last week that "it's a fallacy to think that this is like the Cold War. The current times are different and more dangerous."

    On Monday Russia said it would expand its current naval facility at the Syrian post of Tartus into a “permanent” base.

    The announcement followed the ratification by the Russian parliament of a treaty allowing indefinite deployment of Russian forces to the country.

    Russia is also reported to be considering establishing a military presence in Egypt for the first time since the Cold War.

    Moscow and Cairo are discussing options for renting several bases, including the Soviet-era air base near Sidi Barrani, Izvestia, a pro-government daily paper, reported on Monday.

    Russia said is sending 5000 paratroopers to take part in joint exercises in Egypt later this month, in a move that signifies Middle Eastern ambitions well beyond Syria.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/10/gorbachev-warns-world-is-at-dangerous-point-amid-us-russian-face/
     
  7. Le's review. Obama and Hillary destabilize first Egypt, the Libya, leading to massive arms flow to terrorists, some of whom we support directly and others indirectly. ISIS is created and financed by our stalwart "allies" Saudi Arabia and Qatar, even as it is finally learned that Saudi Arabia's government was heavily involved in running the 9/11 terrorists. ISIS, using mainly "captured" US equipment is able to take over half of Iraq and a slice of Syria. The US demands that Syria's leader Assad essentially surrender and turn the country over to terrorists. Instead he asks Putin for help, which promptly arrives and turns the tide.

    With the terrorists on the verge of being eliminated, Obama and Kerry put us on the brink of WW III because journalists are sad over pictures of bombing. We have been there before with dems. They manufactured evidence that "civilians" were being massacred in Libya. Same with Serbia a decade ago when Bill Clinton got us involved in a war that had nothing to do with our interests.

    The only force that actually seems able to destroy ISIS is the Russians. Fro some reason, the US and its regional partners just can't seem to get it done, and now they get very upset when Russian is getting it done. Curious, isn't it?
     
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  8. Ricter

    Ricter

    These Nuclear Launch Officers Are Scared By The Idea Of A Trump Commander-In-Chief
    “He should not have his finger on the button.”
    10/13/2016 05:39 pm ET

    "If you’re not frightened by the thought of Donald Trump having his finger on the nuclear button, you should consider listening to these folks.

    "A group of former nuclear launch officers in the U.S. Air Force have signed an open letter saying they’re disturbed by the idea of Trump standing over what’s known as the “red button.” The letter, with 10 signatories, was first reported by The Washington Post on Thursday.

    “Only the president can order a nuclear launch. That order cannot be vetoed and once the missiles have been launched, they cannot be called back,” the letter states. “The consequences of miscalculation, impulsive decision-making or poor judgment on the part of the president could be catastrophic.”

    "The letter concludes: “Donald Trump should not be the nation’s commander-in-chief. He should not be entrusted with the nuclear launch codes. He should not have his finger on the button.”

    "Throughout the campaign, Trump has shown a stunning propensity to lash out at his critics and attack anyone ― be it a fellow Republican or even a Gold Star mother ― who he believes crossed him. He’s taken to Twitter at 3 a.m. to assail a former Miss Universe whom he humiliated years ago. As the letter itself notes, Trump is “easily baited” by those who want to provoke him ― not exactly a quality you want in the leader of the world’s most powerful military.

    "All of that has made Trump’s “temperament” a focus of the campaign. Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton says he does not have the cool demeanor required of a commander-in-chief, and plenty of reputable military and security experts happen to agree. The nuclear launch officers are just the latest to air their concerns and issue an anti-Trump proclamation ahead of the Nov. 8 election.

    "Bruce Blair, who, according to the Post, organized the letter, told the paper that the writers deliberately did not endorse Clinton. “No one who signed the letter wanted to disclose a position who they would vote for,” Blair said. “The letter is focused entirely on Trump.” He said those who signed were “flabbergasted” by the possibility of a Trump presidency, and wanted to speak out before it was too late."

    Read the full letter here and the Post’s interview here.
     
  9. You're the one lacking context. You admit he's a tool of the Kremlin. Russia is behind the DNC leaks. It is playing chess; it wishes to take down the queen so it can play against a pawn. The problem is they're not playing enough moves ahead. Putin thinks he can placate and contain Trump. (How well has that worked out for the RNC?) Regardless of how much more pushback they may receive from a Clinton presidency, Russia probably cannot imagine what is in store for them with a Trump presidency. Trump will fawn all over Putin while he thinks Putin holds him in any regard. But, as he has shown time and again, he'll go "nuclear" if he feels that he's been slighted. And he always ends up feeling slighted. Let history, and his thin skin, guide you.
     
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  10. jem

    jem

    so the very incisive explanation below of how hillary caused these problems and it leads you fredie to think Trump will be a bigger problem than her and her team?

    you can lead a drone to the truth... but he refuses to think.

     
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    #10     Oct 14, 2016