Using Options To Protect a Large Portfolio

Discussion in 'Options' started by LaxFan, Dec 25, 2019.

  1. LaxFan

    LaxFan

    Is there any recommended strategy to use options to protect a large portfolio? I’ve read about LEAPs but heard they are expensive.

    In my case, I’ve been way too conservative and have missed the greatest bull market in history at age 43. Nearly all assets in cash. Even though I follow the markets and find stocks and investing very interesting I don’t have the personal risk tolerance to sleep at night with large paper losses. Sitting on about $400K, but fear putting it into an index fund at record highs. Feel like a fool for missing out on the past decade, but I can’t just dump it all into the SPY now.

    Any way to use options to protect the portfolio, yet invest? Or should I just start dollar cost averaging a couple hundred a month and forget what I missed?
     
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  2. $400K isn't large. Keep working and dollar cost average into the market over the next year or two.
     
  3. Daal

    Daal

    Read about Dalio's All Seasons portfolio, its a way to earn some equity premium while minimizing drawdowns
     
  4. LaxFan

    LaxFan

    It’s more than I ever thought I’d accumulate and more than anyone in my middle class family ever had, so I’m very conservative with it.
     
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  5. So keep working and DCA. In another 10 years, you'll have around 2 mill. Keep it up.

    Also a good idea, but you'll get FOMO on bull runs.
     
  6. LaxFan

    LaxFan

    Is 2 million even remotely feasible? I’d like to believe it but can’t imagine that with my conservative mindset.
     
  7. DCA plus another ten twenty years of earning I'm sure you can. Just don't quit the day job and work on improving your income
     
  8. Bum

    Bum

    Rather than using options to protect $400K, just purchase DITM calls or call spreads in SPY.
    Put the remaining 75% in the bank @ 2% (1 yr. CDs) or some other investment.
    Buying smaller amounts of call spreads in TLT (bonds) or GLD (gold) could also act as some protection for a lower SPY.
     
    Last edited: Dec 25, 2019
  9. tommcginnis

    tommcginnis

    You want portfolio insurance? That's what options *are*.
    But if your account is in cash, then you are already insured against anything but inflation.

    Regardless, you express a wish to "participate" -- that is an easy one. While I agree with the dollar-cost averaging observations made thus far (with a default SPY target), I'd offer something with a little more (a *lot* more) involvement (entanglement): figure out those things that you'd wish to own, and sell naked puts on them: for $1000 of capital employed, you'll earn a great return. If you get hit on something you would've bought anyway, then you'll have been *paid* to purchase it at a lesser price than market.

    Beats the pants of off dollar-cost averaging.
     
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  10. +1 to this. It's how I take positions.
     
    #10     Dec 25, 2019