unsecured debt ratings for ULCC / Frontier Airlines ?

Discussion in 'Fixed Income' started by billpritjr, Jan 15, 2024.

  1. Hello

    Can anyone point me to a site that shows the debt ratings/scores for Frontier Airlines ?

    I tried looking at Yahoo Finance and other places and could not locate anything.

    Thank you
     
  2. Quanto

    Quanto

    Do you mean these guys ? :)
    https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/ULCC?p=ULCC
    Many news there, incl. SEC filings. See Balance Sheet for the debts.
    More uptodate info usually can be found under the Investor Relations (IR) web page of most listed companys.
    You can also subscribe to company news etc. to get the news relevant for investors and traders as quickly as possible (via email).

     
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  3. BMK

    BMK

    QuantumOnline is an excellent resource, but I couldn't find anything there

    It is possible that ULCC does not currently have any bonds or notes outstanding that are publicly traded

    Do you have a CUSIP or any other data, or any evidence of any kind, that indicates that any publicly traded debt instruments actually exist?

    Their balance sheet shows long term debt, but that could be loans that are not publicly traded, such as mortgages or equipment financing, whatever

    You may be looking for something that does not exist
     
  4. Quanto

    Quanto

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  5. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    maybe in the notes in the corp filings
     
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  6. 2rosy

    2rosy

    Google Fitch moodys
     
  7. nitrene

    nitrene

    According to their last 10Q (see page 3 & 4) they have reduced their long term debt from $272 to $220M. They have paid $21M for the first 9 months of the FY so the math indicates a ~12-13% interest rate payment. I'm pretty sure this puts them in the B or CCC aka the lowest of the Junk Bond ratings.

    If they were BB it would probably be around 8% interest rate.

    Wow their stock only goes in one direction -- down. Their Smart Score (Tip Ranks) is the lowest and they have 36% short interest. This company looks it is going BK. Who knows maybe it will pull a Carvana come back.

    [I own the XCCC ETF which a diversified CCC rated junk bond ETF that is how I interpret their 13% rating.]
     
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  8. Quanto

    Quanto

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  9. BMK

    BMK

    That could be bonds. Or it could be something else. That number alone does not tell you whether there are any publicly traded bonds.
     
  10. ph1l

    ph1l

    It appears Frontier Group Holdings, Inc. (ULCC) has no publicly traded bonds (at least according to my broker).
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