Turn the caravan around — the US is not a dumping ground

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  1. Poindexter

    Poindexter

    Turn the caravan around — the US is not a dumping ground
    By Ned Ryun, opinion contributor — 10/25/18 08:00 AM EDT

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    With all of the coverage regarding the Honduran caravan marching toward the U.S. border, it’s time to have a conversation about who we want to be as a country in the future. Not in the distant future, but in the very near future; maybe less than 10 years from now. Because what we decide to do today will set the tone for the next several generations.

    Like nails on a chalkboard, we keep hearing Democrats and left-wing activists talk about these desperate immigrants seeking asylum and refuge from dysfunctional societies. We are told that it’s about “humanity first” and that we have a moral obligation to take them in.

    However, we should not be fooled by the emotional reactions (and political maneuverings) of those who claim to speak for the caravan. The United States is under zero moral obligations to take citizens from misgoverned countries around the globe.

    We are not an escape valve for the breakdown of civil society in Central America, nor are American taxpayers some sort of backstop for the Mexican government that refuses to fulfill its own obligations towards asylum seekers.

    It seems that there is the new standard, which puts all of the responsibility on the shoulders of the U.S and no one else in the hemisphere. We are not obligated to accept anyone seeking asylum from anywhere in the world. And we’re not talking about thousands of people; we’re now talking about hundreds of millions.

    The United States would become the great dumping ground for the problems of other countries. Countries who don’t have the ability or desire to deal with their problems, so their solution is to offload them on the United States and American taxpayer.

    What’s even more insulting about all of this is the billions of foreign aid and taxpayer dollars that have already been sent to these dysfunctional countries over the last eight years.

    Now certain segments of the left and the squishy middle think that somehow the taxpayer should be put upon again, despite the fact that we’re already funding some $116 billion annually for the illegals already in the country. If we do not firmly resist this influx of illegal immigrants, our social welfare programs will be at even greater risk than they are now. The significant majority of our federal government’s mandatory spending goes toward social welfare programs and continues to climb yearly.

    If we do not stop the current trends, what happens when mass automation hits, throwing many low skilled or unskilled workers out of work?

    We cannot afford more of our national wealth being devoted to social programs, nor can we afford the social and civic degradation of tens of millions of people living dependent on others, especially if millions of them are first generation unassimilated immigrants.

    Whether we go broke or are Balkanized, we will cease to be a free people. Instead, we will become serfs of the federal government, toiling away to fund the government’s massive obligations.

    We are a generous and caring people. We have given much to the world: from helping rescue the world from Nazism, to standing firm against the expansion of communism, to providing the greatest amount of freedom and opportunity to men and women from all over the world.

    Not to mention the millions of refugees and immigrants we’ve welcomed — according to legal processes — over the decades.

    Because of who we are, we are a beacon of hope around the world. Don’t be fooled, “humanity first” is just a slogan. What the supporters, enablers and apologists of the caravan seek is great numbers of immigrants whom they believe will be beholden to the party of government, the Democrats.

    Those who see through this smokescreen believe that “America First” actually offers a better way. We firmly believe that our experiment in self-government, rule of law and free markets requires national sovereignty and secure borders. Our values, our institutions and our future cannot thrive or survive if what makes America exceptional is not safeguarded.

    We wish no ill will to other peoples; we simply do not wish for them to become our wards. If the United States was treated more as a model and less as a safety valve for failed states, we’d all be better off.

    It is well past time to secure the southern borders, even to the point that we cease foreign aid to all countries that refuse to respect our national sovereignty and show gratitude for our generosity over the decades. If this caravan and others, is the future, there might well come a day when the United States is forced to turn its generous foreign aid into funding for border security. As President Trump has said often, the days of the United States being taken advantage of are over.

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  2. You are there so apparently it is "a dumping ground" or was when your family arrived.

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    "1899, THE IMMIGRANT: THE STRANGER AT OUR GATE.

    EMIGRANT.–Can I come in?
    UNCLE SAM.–I ‘spose you can; there’s no law to keep you out."

    Got in and pulled up the drawbridge eh? Just for a little perspective on your place in American history.

    "The caravan" is a Trump election trick. Show some respect to your ancestors.
     
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  3. There is no doubt that sooner than later, regardless of political stripe, dinner is about to be served, and both parties share the blame.
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  4. Escaping poverty and violence,

    or bringing poverty and violence.

    Let the viewers decide.
     
  5. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Not flaming you here, but I can't figure you out... why do you always go after Poindy's ancestry over being Jewish? That doesn't make sense. Isn't that supposed to be the realm of the extreme alt-right? The marchers in Charlottesville. (the bad ones)
     
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  6. Poindexter

    Poindexter

    My place in American history, fatboy, was wearing the uniform of the United States and there's nothing more American than that.

    Your place, OTOH, is being an impotent 300+ pound America-hating troll and interloper who has nothing better to do than post hate on our message boards.

    So fuck off back to your slum in Colombia where you belong.
     
  7. He claims to be a US reform Jew. Virtually all were democrat in politics and they do things like ordain women rabbi etc. Very modern and progressive. They are literally called "fake Jews", "Fake Rolexs of Jews" and are 2nd class in Israel. One of their leaders was beaten in Israel recently. But they get Israel a lot of American money..

    However Trump's friends and family are orthodox, the ones who created the wall in Israel and run the place as a religious state now when it was billed as secular.

    Stephen Miller a Reform Jew is the architect of the detention centers, caravan story and all of this child abuse and ugliness. He is disowned by his family and his rabbi as they should being US Jews.

    Pointy is the polar opposite of his US group's faith and morals. He is very much like a more hardliner Sephardi Jew (so many other groups also), the general types Trump's friends and family are, Israel first, America good for the money.

    Pointy loves Stephen Miller, whose own family and rabbi have denounced as a bad seed. Pointy is a bad seed also and his claims to be Reform Jewish are at best only technical.

    The good bit is the leader of the group he most closely matches regards African American Blacks as monkeys. He clearly has stated he has a black sister. Pointy weighing that up, ignores it all for "owning the libs" purposes. His little pleasure has no roots beyond attention for himself and troll buzz. He has power over you VZ in his mind, you are his little bitch.

    He also sees no profit in addressing all the GOP neo-Nazis. But hey, when convenient he becomes a part of the 'plurality' of Jews.
     
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  8. Poindexter

    Poindexter

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    Reform Judaism is the largest Jewish denomination in the United States, fatboy. There may be some Jews in Israel who may say that but it doesn't make it so and in fact it's no man's call who is and is not a real Jew. And the fact that a morally bankrupt gentile like you tries to weaponize it by throwing it at me dozens of times makes you a depraved bigot.
     
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  9. smallfil

    smallfil

    Amazing you have all these foreign trolls coming out of the woodwork to lecture us on how things should be run in the US? You clowns are not even Americans and do not live in the US! You do not have even the right to lecture us when you have your shithole countries to fix! Go fix your own countries instead, of meddling in ours! Try that in China for instance and see if they do not beat you up in a pulp and lock your ass in jail afterwards! Unlike the US, China has some shitty jails or even Mexico. Try your BS over there!
     
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  10. Pointy owns you bitches, I own him. I literally have his identity. Have had for a long time because he exposed himself on another forum.

    He wore a uniform except just in an office and then taking an officers uniform for cleaning.

    He is the fraud. He only wants to 'win' and divide Americans by getting you boys to think he is a good egg.

    Anyway children, enjoy your afternoon.

    P.S. if you can't consider the connection between the historical cartoon I posted and now, you deserve to be his bitches.
     
    #10     Oct 27, 2018