Erdoğan says Turkey plans to buy another Russian defense system The Trump administration in 2019 moved to suspend delivering F-35 fighter aircraft equipment to Turkey over its purchase of Russia’s S-400 long-range air defense system. The U.S government has repeatedly warned that the Russian system could harm the NATO alliance through its ability to detect detailed information about F-35 jets...... The Turkish president responded, "In the future, nobody will be able to interfere in terms of what kind of defense systems we acquire, from which country, at what level.” “Nobody can interfere with that,” he added. “We are the only ones to make such decisions.” Sounds like the customer doesn't like being bullied.
We should stop selling our military tech to allies, who can suddenly become our enemies. Like Turkey, Afghanistan, China. Whatever. Let's just put all that new product into our defensive fleet here on US soil. And that includes Isreal. It is time for them to stand on their own, and let us see where the chips fall on this whole GAZA STRIP BS we've been suffering for decades.
Turkey was getting F-35 A-models but they were severely nerfed for foreign export. There weren't getting a fraction of the flight software developed and critical surface structures for stealth were replaced with conventional panels and leading edges etc. They certainly were not getting the advanced radar or advanced countermeasures. They were getting just about what you would sell to a quasi-adversary. Turkey has no real place in NATO. I'm not sure we belong in NATO either tbh.
No lie. And the premise of NATO is that an attack on one is an attack on all. WTF? Turkey is up to its eyeballs in all sorts of snaky, sketchy, Islamic affiliations and ventures that we either should not care about or should stay far, far away or oppose. NATO is sketchy too as you suggest. We went into Obama's and Hillary's private war in Libya as a NATO operation???????? They could not get support on the home front so they shopped it around to the UN and NATO and cobbled their approval together as a substitute for American approval. Both Trump and Biden- swallowing hard to say that- show some signs that a true free world alliance between traditional allies need to be regenerated versus just paying NATO to protect Europe from the Ruskies on our dime. Biden mouths the right things even though he is clueless. His handlers know that we need to at least pretend to show some defense and posture vis a vis China and NATO is lost in space on that. Re-invigorating relations with Great Britain, Australia, China etc.....I am all in favor of it. Canada is pissed because they were not included in recent deals. Good. They should want in and if they get their heads out of China's arse and decide to be with the free world that is possible.
I never really understood that either. Example: Here they're selling to the Brits replacements for our Harpoons. Makes no sense. IAI Unveils New Sea Serpent Anti-Ship Missile Israeli Aerospace Industries (IAI) showcased for the first time the new Sea Serpent anti-ship missile, which was developed in collaboration with Thales, at the DSEI 2021 trade show in London. Tayfun Ozberk 26 Sep 2021 The new missile, first announced in April 2021, is intended to provide a compelling solution for arming the Royal Navy’s Type 23 frigates with an anti-ship and anti-surface missile capable of matching and outmatching a rapidly expanding range and intensity of current and emerging threats. The requirement is known as SSGW for surface to surface guided weapon. Speaking to Naval News, Maritime Director of IAI UK, Malcolm McKenzie, underlined that Sea Serpent would be the best antiship missile worldwide thanks to its operationalization technology. “It (DSEI-2021) is the first time IAI had shown Sea Serpent anywhere in the world. Sea Serpent itself has been an operationalization of technology into a missile system that makes it the best anti-ship and land attack missile system available in the world today.” The Sea Serpent is specifically developed to meet the demands of the Royal Navy. McKenzie said that there has obviously been a parallel development path with other missile systems in the IAI portfolio such as the Gabriel V selected by the Finnish Navy as well as the Blue Spear being developed with ST Engineering for the Republic of Singapore Navy. But Sea Serpent is specifically designed to meet the threats that the Royal Navy will field both today and most importantly, tomorrow. “I can say it is without doubt and far away the best missile in his class.” he claimed. Due to confidentiality concerns, McKenzie did not reveal information about the missile’s terminal phase, but he did reveal the general performance specifications of the Sea Serpent, saying, “The Sea Serpent is designed to give a good stand off range. In its flight profile, it can achieve greater than 290 km in a low profile mode. It has an extensive capability against peer plus threats. But I can’t give details about its terminal phase on this unclassified forum. I can say that it is hugely exciting and the Royal Navy will be pleasantly surprised with the capabilities that we are offering.” Sea Serpent anti-ship missile (full scale model) on IAI stand at DSEI 2021. IAI has been collaborating with UK partners to reduce the risk of Sea Serpent integration onto the Royal Navy’s Type 23 frigates. “We are confident that the footprint of Sea Serpent is in very many ways similar to that of the current Harpoon system. Therefore there would be minimal requirements to alter the ship installation to allow Sea Serpent to be fitted.” Mackenzie added. The Director also explained why IAI chose Thales to develop Sea Serpent, saying, “We have chosen Thales as our preferred partner to make sure that the social value elements of our delivery absolutely meet the government requirements, and that we can offer the UK a good return for the investment it will make in the Sea Serpent capability.” The Royal Navy’s requirements in terms of delivery date is very stringent (reportedly end of 2023) but IAI is confident they can meet this very tight schedule. “Sea Serpent will be delivered on time.” McKenzie said. About Sea Serpent missile IAI’s Surface-to-Surface missile, SEA SERPENT, is being offered to the Royal Navy’s SSGW program. It provides an agile, highly penetrative, combined anti-ship and land attack capability at ranges well beyond 200 kilometers. To provide precise target detection, discrimination, and classification, an innovative RF seeker head and a sophisticated data analysis and weapon control system are used. Overcomes both kinetic counter-fire and increasingly sophisticated electronic countermeasures, allowing the missile to locate and attack its target in littoral, open-ocean, and overland environments. It is specifically designed to prevail in contested, congested, and confusing situations characterized by a large number of decoys, disrupted reality, and heavy electronic interference, as well as clutter from the land and false returns. Sea Serpent incorporates mid-course updates from real-time ISTAR feeds and the ability to re-task in flight in fast-moving situations, particularly in cooperative engagements and distributed sensor-and-shooter networks. The missile also provides significant Military Off-the-Shelf (MOTS) advantages in terms of cost, time-to-procurement, entry into operational service, and risk reduction.
lol. Yep I'm not clear on Canada's need for nuclear submarines. Once they evolve to the point of getting bacon right we can circle back and figure out what they need.
The defense industry would probably disagree, their profit motive drives a lot of the media drum beat over who our friends and enemies are.