Trying pitch fork

Discussion in 'Options' started by vanv0029, Jun 10, 2014.

  1. vanv0029

    vanv0029

    Thanks Drownpruf for the pitchfork idea.

    I have been trying to use the pitchfork idea for a while, but it was
    not been possible to enter it at about delta neutral:

    Here is what I am trying (10 SPY = 1 SPX):

    short 1x July 1895 call SPX for 61.40
    short 3x July 1895 put SPX for 11.20
     
  2. What's the idea behind this?
     
  3. van..the pitchfork works great in higher IV...I think the IV is currently too low for this trade...jmo
     
  4. Doobs789

    Doobs789

    It looks pretty close to neutral to me.
     
  5. Do you realize you are completely naked here? The risk is unlimited to both sides. Any sharp move in any direction and you are screwed.
    Having said that, this looks like a smart way to trade the volatility skew IF you are very experienced, hedged elsewhere, and when volatility is higher when you enter this short vol position.
    Oh, and it's fairly delta neutral when you enter it. This will quickly change once the market starts to move. :cool:
     
  6. It's primarily used to put a figure on skew. Normalized with a rolling-OTC expiration. I use it as a historical reference and trade them on occasion. Maybe 1-2 positions a month.