Way back I remember the multiple times I outlined the "fake electors" scheme is a criminal activity and these fake electors need to be charged --- while the MAGA crowd was claiming fake "alternate electors" sending in false information was "perfectly acceptable". Sorry clowns, undermining democracy is NOT acceptable. These fake electors need to get lengthy prison terms. Michigan attorney general charges fake Trump electors over alleged 2020 election crimes https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/18/fake-trump-electors-charged-with-michigan-election-crimes.html Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel criminally charged 16 so-called “fake electors” for Donald Trump in an allegedly fraudulent effort to reverse Joe Biden’s victory in the state’s 2020 election. Nessel called the plan by the Michigan defendants, most of whom are active in Republican politics, “an effort to undermine democracy.” Separately, Trump said special counsel Jack Smith notified him he’s a target in a federal criminal probe over attempts to overturn the election. Michigan’s attorney general on Tuesday criminally charged 16 so-called “fake electors” for former President Donald Trump, accusing them of a fraudulent effort to reverse President Joe Biden’s victory in the state’s 2020 election. The 16 people each face eight charges, including conspiracy, election law forgery, and uttering and publishing, state Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a video announcement. Nessel called the alleged plan a “desperate effort” to “undermine democracy.” Several of the accused are active in Republican politics. Nessel has not ruled out potential criminal charges against additional defendants, her office said. The case is the first time that any members of fake Electoral College slates for Trump have been criminally charged. Nessel’s announcement also came hours after Trump said that Department of Justice special counsel Jack Smith has designated him a target in a federal criminal probe of attempts to undo the ex-president’s loss in 2020. Smith’s investigation is focused on, among other things, the attempted use of fake Electoral College slates to thwart Biden’s victory. The alleged Michigan scheme On Dec. 14, 2020, weeks after Biden defeated Trump by more than 154,000 votes in Michigan, the defendants met covertly in the basement of the state GOP headquarters and signed documents claiming to be the legally qualified electors for the state in the Electoral College, according to Nessel. “That was a lie,” Nessel said. “They weren’t the duly elected and qualified electors, and each of the defendants knew it.” After that meeting, “some of the false electors attempted to enter the state Capitol and deliver their fabricated electoral votes to the Senate floor, but were turned away,” she said. The bogus electoral documents were then sent to the U.S. Senate and the National Archives “with the intent that Vice President Mike Pence would overturn the results of the election using the false electoral slate,” Nessel said. Nessel said the defendants are: Kathy Berden, Rose Rook, Mayra Rodriguez, William “Hank” Choate, Meshawn Maddock, Mari-Ann Henry, John Haggard, Clifford Frost, Kent Vanderwood, Stanley Grot, Marian Sheridan, Timothy King, James Renner, Michel Lundgren, Amy Facchinello and Ken Thompson. The charges announced Tuesday have maximum possible prison sentences of up to 14 years. The defendants have been given a week to surrender on the charges, said Nessel, whose office said the investigation is continuing. CNN reported in early 2021 that Maddock, the co-chair of the Michigan Republican Party was heard on an audio recording at a public event as saying, “We fought to seat the electors. The Trump campaign asked us to do that.” Nessel on Tuesday noted that three days before the fake electors met and signed the fraudulent documents, the U.S. Supreme Court had dismissed a lawsuit by the state of Texas challenging the election results in Michigan, as well as in Georgia, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. Other states under scrutiny Michigan’s 16 Electoral College votes helped provide Biden with his margin of victory against Trump. The Electoral College, not the popular vote, determines the winners of presidential elections. Allies of Trump in Michigan and several other states, arguing falsely that he was the victim of widespread ballot fraud, assembled would-be slates of Electoral College members with an eye toward asking then-Vice President Pence to accept the slates as valid. In addition to Michigan, the so-called alternate electors’ slates came from Arizona, Georgia, New Mexico, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Pence, as part of his constitutional duties, presided over a joint session of Congress that began meeting Jan. 6, 2021, to certify Biden’s victory in the Electoral College. Pence rejected a push by Trump, and Trump’s lawyer John Eastman, to accept the then-president’s electors in states Biden won. The proceeding was disrupted by the invasion of the U.S. Capitol by a violent mob of Trump supporters, causing Pence and members of Congress to flee and hide. “The evidence will demonstrate there was no legal authority for the false electors to purport to act as ‘duly elected presidential electors’ and execute the false electoral documents,” Nessel said Tuesday. “Every serious challenge to the election had been denied, dismissed, or otherwise rejected by the time the false electors convened,” Nessel said. “There was no legitimate legal avenue or plausible use of such a document or an alternative slate of electors.” Last summer, an Atlanta prosecutor told all 16 people who acted as fake electors in Georgia were targets of her criminal probe of Trump and his allies for their attempt to undo Biden’s victory in that state. At least half of those Georgia fake electors since have reached immunity deals with the prosecutor, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis, according to a court filing in May.
Interesting that Both the DOJ and Michigan announce these indictments the day before Whistleblowers testify in the House How well coordinated After the testimony tomorrow Joe B is on his way to impeachment
I doubt they told Biden yet This seems to be the truth Biden found out about Trump indictment through news reports, White House says. The White House said Friday that President Biden found out that his political rival, former President Trump, had been indicted through news reports. “The president, senior staff found out just like everybody else last nigh
Those fake electors charged yesterday by the Michigan AG were so unaware they were committing a crime that they all ditched their phones outside their meeting where they signed the false certifications to ensure nobody recorded it. Fake GOP electors ditched their phones so their plot to overturn Michigan's 2020 results wouldn't be recorded, prosecutors say https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...n&cvid=14bc327f7e7e450b9bbf5c5f139a9e0d&ei=23
Lock her up! Ginni Thomas Under Scrutiny Following Arrest of Michigan Fake Electors https://www.newsweek.com/ginni-thomas-arizona-fake-electors-michigan-1813950 There are calls for Virginia "Ginni" Thomas, the wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, to face investigation for allegedly trying to overturn the 2020 election results after 16 Republicans were charged in Michigan over a "false elector" plot. Ginni Thomas has long come under scrutiny over her actions in the wake of the last election, including sending text messages to Donald Trump's former chief of staff Mark Meadows urging him to help overturn the results of the election, while describing Joe Biden's fair victory as the "greatest heist of our history." Ginni Thomas is also alleged to have sent emails to dozens of Arizona election officials and lawmakers claiming it was their "constitutional duty" to install a "clean slate of electors" who would be willing to declare Trump the winner in the Grand Canyon State in 2020. Thomas is said to have told the lawmakers to "stand strong in the face of political and media pressure" and falsely claimed the responsibility to choose electors was "yours and yours alone." On 14 December, a group of 13 Republicans, including Arizona GOP chair Kelli Ward, met to sign a document falsely declaring themselves the "duly elected and qualified electors" for the state and that they had the power to award Arizona's 11 electoral votes for Trump, instead of the state's true winner of Biden. Arizona Attorney General Kris Mayes' office is said to be investigating the false slate of electors who attempted to claim Trump had won the state in 2020, reported The Washington Post and NBC News. There is currently no indication that Ginni Thomas is under investigation as part of the probe. Newsweek has contacted her for comment via social media. In December 2022, the House Select Committee investigating the January 6 attack did not recommend that the Department of Justice bring forward any charges against Ginni Thomas. Speaking to the panel about her texts to Meadows, Ginni Thomas testified: "I would take them all back if I could today." However, social media users have called for Ginni Thomas to also face charges in the wake of Michigan's attorney general Dana Nessel announcing charges for 16 people, including Meshawn Maddock, a former co-chair of the Michigan Republican party, and Kathy Berden, a national committeewoman for the Republican National Committee. "I've said it many times before and I'll say it again, today would be a wonderful day to investigate," tweeted Twitter user Dan Levison after news of the Michigan charges broke. Majid Padellan, better known as the popular left-wing Twitter account Brooklyn Dad, tweeted: "Ginni Thomas 100% needs to be indicted for the role she played in trying to overturn the election." Fellow Twitter user Jeffrey Levy added in response to charges against the alleged Michigan fake electors plotters: "Only 5 or 6 other states to go on the fake electors. Also Ginni Thomas should be indicted since she was heavily involved in the conspiracy." Ginni Thomas' name was also suggested as a potential key suspect in the plots to overturn the last election even before Nessel's offices brought forward their charges. "Don't forget that Clarence Thomas isn't the one in his household we're concerned about. His wife Ginni Thomas urged state lawmakers in Arizona to ignore President Biden's victory and 'choose' presidential electors to overturn the 2020 presidential election," the Citizens for Responsibility & Ethics in Washington (CREW) tweeted on July 15. Earlier this year, Arizona AG Mayes, a Democrat, vowed to fully investigate the fake electoral scheme in the state. "We have to make sure that it's clear to everyone it's unacceptable to try to steal an election, to undermine and overthrow an election, and that's what happened," Mayes told MSNBC in January. "We have to make sure what happened in 2020 never happens again." While announcing the news about the Michigan fake electoral scheme charges, Nessel said: "The false electors' actions undermined the public's faith in the integrity of our elections and, we believe, also plainly violated the laws by which we administer our elections in Michigan "The evidence will demonstrate there was no legal authority for the false electors to purport to act as 'duly elected presidential electors' and execute the false electoral documents," Nessel added. "Every serious challenge to the election had been denied, dismissed, or otherwise rejected by the time the false electors convened. There was no legitimate legal avenue or plausible use of such a document or an alternative slate of electors. "There was only the desperate effort of these defendants, who we have charged with deliberately attempting to interfere with and overturn our free and fair election process, and along with it, the will of millions of Michigan voters."
Good Riddance! Michigan clerk stripped of election duties after he was charged with acting as fake elector in 2020 election https://www.cbsnews.com/news/michigan-clerk-fake-elector-2020-stripped-of-election-duties/
We FINALLY found that voting machine tampering in Michigan. So does this prove all the conspiracy theorists right? ‘I have been indicted,’ says suspect in Michigan vote machine tampering probe https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-g...suspect-michigan-vote-machine-tampering-probe Stefanie Lambert, suspect in Michigan vote machine tampering case, says she has been indicted Lambert is one of nine suspects loyal to former President Donald Trump referred to special prosecutor last year The suspects, including the sheriff of Barry County, are accused of trying to find evidence the 2020 election was rigged against Trump LANSING — A key suspect in an alleged plot to illegally access Michigan voting machines following the 2020 presidential election says she has been indicted in the long-running probe and expects to be arraigned next week. “My attorney has been informed that I have been indicted by DJ Hilson, the special prosecutor in Michigan, working at the request of (Attorney General) Dana Nessel,” Stefanie Lambert said Wednesday on a conservative podcast, where she bashed the pending criminal action. “I'm not losing any sleep over this,” continued Lambert, a metro Detroit attorney who has worked for 2020 election deniers across the country. “I know that I've done absolutely nothing illegal. My clients have not done anything illegal.” Bridge Michigan could not independently verify her assertions late Wednesday. Lambert is one of nine suspects Nessel referred to a special prosecutor last fall, citing an alleged tabulator tampering plot that aimed to prove former President Donald Trump’s unfounded claims the 2020 contest was rigged against him. Court records show Hilson convened a secret grand jury to review evidence. It is the grand jury that would decide any indictments. In a Thursday morning email, Hilson said he could "neither confirm nor deny the existence of a grand jury or any indictments" because of state law prohibiting disclosure in such cases until defendants are in custody. "Regardless of what any person may say, I am still bound by law and intend to follow it," Hilson told Bridge. Other suspects in the case include former state Rep. Daire Rendon of Lake City, Barry County Sheriff Dar Leaf, officials with the Cyber Ninjas security firm and former Republican attorney general candidate Matt DePerno, who did not return a voicemail seeking comment late Wednesday. In last year’s request for a special prosecutor, the attorney general’s office alleged Lambert and others "orchestrated a coordinated plan to gain access” to voting machines in multiple jurisdictions following the 2020 presidential election. The suspects allegedly took five ballot tabulators from Barry, Roscommon and Missaukee counties to Oakland County. There, Michigan State Police contend the machines were "broken into" for "tests," according to court filings. An Oakland County Circuit Court judge this month paved the way for a charging decision in the tabulator tampering case by granting Hilson’s request for a legal interpretation of a law banning “undue possession” of voting equipment. Judge Phyllis McMillen ruled that Michigan law only allows access to voting machines with authorization of the Secretary of State or a court order, rejecting Lambert’s arguments that a local election clerk could provide access. Court records indicate Hilson had sought the judicial interpretation before providing final instructions to the grand jury. “The police investigation is now sufficiently complete and a charging decision is ready to be made by the charging entity,” Hilson wrote in a May 9 filing. Lambert, who did not respond to a request for comment on this story, is also mired in other legal battles. A cyber security expert sued her last week in Detroit federal court, alleging she refused to pay him and was "furious" after he reviewed Pennsylvania election data for her but found no evidence of fraud. In the tabulator tampering case, Lambert is now asking the Michigan Court of Appeals to overturn the Oakland Circuit Court interpretation of state law, arguing she and other suspects accused had probed voting machines “at the behest of county clerks and county sheriffs.” Hilson responded on Tuesday, asking the court to reject Lambert's appeal because, among other things, it was "incomprehensible” and the Oakland County case is already closed. In her Wednesday podcast appearance, Lambert lambasted Hilson for using the grand jury to issue indictments instead of making a charging decision by himself. She reiterated a previous threat to sue him. “He thought that he could get the grand jury to do his dirty work and insulate himself from a suit, but that's false,” Lambert said. “He misrepresented the law to them. I'm totally going to sue him for doing this.”
There is of course no such thing as fake electors. It's up to Congreff to decide which slates of electors to accept or decline.