Trump Wins. Obama Judge Loses

Discussion in 'Politics' started by ipatent, Mar 17, 2025.

  1. ipatent

    ipatent

    Trump Wins. Obama Judge Loses

    Fact: After two planeloads of violent criminals were aloft, outside US airspace, over international waters, the Obama judge threw a fit. More precisely, he ordered the plane to return with these 300 members of the violent, invading Venezuelan gang.

    Fact: The Obama judge, who previously ruled for whales over lobstermen, demanded of the President: “Any plane containing these folks that are going to take off or is in the air needs to be returned to the United States, however, that is accomplished. Make sure it’s complied with immediately.”

    Fact: Judges, of course, are important. Respect for them is important. They have authorities granted by Congress, except the Supreme Court, tied to the Constitution.

    Opinion: This judge was way out over his skis. Frantically, and ideologically, he was trying to stop a president from exercising authorities granted to him by Article II and statute. Trump by law conducts foreign affairs and protects, not an Obama judge.
     
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  2. ipatent

    ipatent

  3. notagain

    notagain

    Impeach the commie judges for violating national security, the constitution, acting as foreign agents and they probably went to Epstein's island.
     
  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The Reality: The Trump administration deliberately ignored the judges decision. Whether the planes were over international waters is mute -- the planes should have returned as per the the judge. The executive branch ignoring court rulings is how fascism starts. Based on this behavior shortly we will only have one branch of government, the dictator's, rather than three.

    The Trump administration regularly states they can ignore judges.

    'Trump's "border czar" Tom Hooman offers a nuanced, legalistic, and detailed explanation for continuing to deport suspected Venezuelan gang members despite a court order forbidding it: "I don't care what judges think"'


    Trump administration updates: Officials question court's authority over deportations
    "We are not stopping. I don't care what the judges think," Tom Homan said.
    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/live-updates/donald-trump-second-term/?id=119864095
     
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  5. ipatent

    ipatent

     
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    This reads like complete bullshiat. The judge is simply requesting information on the immigration flights so he can hold the Trump administration in contempt. This is not a "highly classified information about a national-security operation" -- especially since the two governments involved arranged to have the handover of the deportees shown in the media on both ends of the flights.

    Let's see what the Wall Street Journal has to say...


    Dangerous road’: Trump gets sharp reprimand as WSJ editors shocked by 'disdain' for law
    https://www.rawstory.com/trump-deportation-2671345286/

    President Donald Trump is fulfilling a campaign promise with his mass deportation plan on full display — but “he can’t defy court orders” to accomplish his goals, the Wall Street Journal’s conservative editorial board wrote Monday in a critical rebuke.


    The dressing down came after Trump officials carried on with the deportation of Venezuelan migrants in open defiance of a court order directing the administration to return flights to the United States over the weekend. While those being deported were reportedly members of Venezuela’s Tren de Aragua gang, and mostly "criminals who were in the U.S. illegally," the board still slammed their send-off, which they noted came “without a hearing in an immigration court, much less a criminal conviction.”

    “The Administration invoked the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 to justify the deportations without need for due process,” the board wrote Monday. “That law has rarely been used in U.S. history and not since World War II. Mr. Trump says we’re at war with the gangs so the law is appropriate, but there has been no declaration of war or resolution from Congress to that effect.”

    "But it’s still troubling to see U.S. officials appear to disdain the law in the name of upholding it," the WSJ board wrote.

    The unfolding fiasco, which included an explosive courtroom showdown Monday afternoon, led the conservative editorial board to wonder aloud: “Are we already arriving at a constitutional impasse when the Administration thinks it can ignore court orders?”

    The administration can appeal whatever ruling U.S. District Judge James Boasberg hands down, the board concluded, but “what the administration can’t do is defy a court order without being lawless itself.”

    “Mr. Trump won the election on a promise to deport illegal migrants, especially criminals and Tren de Aragua,” the board wrote. “His voters will be happy he is fulfilling that promise. But he has to do it within the bounds of American law, or he will take the country down a dangerous road that echoes the way the Biden Administration abused the justice system. Mr. Trump was elected to stop that, not imitate it.”
     
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Looks like the Chief Justice of the United States is up next to be impeached.

    Roberts rejects Trump's call for impeaching judge who ruled against him
     
  9. Mercor

    Mercor

    Trump is just trying to get more people to defend the 20% side
     
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The MAGA crowd wants to eliminate the Supreme Court now. "We don't need no stinking courts".

    MAGA Melts Down After Chief Justice Roberts Rebukes Trump for Impeachment Demand
    HOW DARE HE
    Enraged pro-Trumpers went as far as to suggest the Supreme Court be done away with.
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/maga-...roberts-rebukes-trump-for-impeachment-demand/
     
    #10     Mar 18, 2025