Trump to get Nobel for Iran Deal

Discussion in 'Politics' started by bone, May 9, 2018.

  1. bone

    bone

    Israel, Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates (UAE) will collectively be nominating President Donald Trump for a Nobel peace prize based on his cancellation of the Iran Deal.

    I’m making this up but hey, that’s what CNN does....
     
  2. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    Right, because Europeans who still have a deal with Iran and given the Birther provided no evidence for Iran violating the deal would love to honor that insult. China and Russia are happy too to have more influence in the region.

    Whatever happens with NK, Trump and his cult should forget about any prizes, the only prize he is gonna get is the one Mueller and Dems will give him after the mid-terms. A nice helicopter ride like the one a previous Republican crook got can be arranged too after the award ceremony.
     
  3. lol
     
  4. bone

    bone

    No, here you are flat out empirically incorrecto buckaroo. China and Russia gets more love with Iran - fine, they can have it. But Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates (UAE) are widely reported to be absolutely jubilant with the United States and President Donald J. Trump over this development. So, to your point, the US has actually greatly expanded it's influence and popularity in the Gulf Region. Empirically. Literally.
     
  5. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    I don't think you know what empirically, or literally means
     
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  6. bone

    bone

    Happy to help you out. "Empirically" in that it can be verified by direct observation via official government announcements and press reports from Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates (UAE) expressing their gratitude and support for President Donald J. Trump on cancelling the Iran Deal. "Literally" in that what is stated in the previous sentence is exactly true.

    You're welcome.
     
  7. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    And our real allies UK,Germany and France wants to The US to stay in the deal.

    The countries you mentioned along with Isreal wants The Iran regime gone and they want US troops to die and US taxpayers paying to do it.
     
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  8. bone

    bone


    Yes, you are indeed correct that the UK, Germany, and France wanted the U.S. to stay in deal - but this move is not a surprise for them.

    No, the Gulf States don't want more U.S. troops in the region. That's nice tribal political pablum but it's not on point and the reality is much different. On May 8, 2018 President Trump essentially chose to stand aside and let this be a regional matter because it already is and has been for over three years.

    The fact of the matter is that Iran's neighbors were ignored, insulted and dismissed outright by Obama and Kerry during the process and so they decided to take matters into their own hands.

    All of Iran's immediate neighbors were dead set against the deal. They despised the fact that the U.S. and the Europeans were enabling Iran to step up it's hostilities with it's immediate geographical neighbors. In other words, they brokered a deal without any skin in the game. That would be like the state of Washington deciding a dispute over private property rights and public access to Lake Michigan beaches on the Indiana shoreline.

    On April 2, 2015 the Gulf States and Israel were essentially forced to become allies and wage what has become a unified regional war against Iran. It's an open secret that the Mossad and the Saudi GID are working very closely together. Those very recent Israeli air strikes against Iranian targets in Syria only happened because the Gulf States not only allowed Israeli aircraft to overfly their territory - there was a leak in the Israeli press that they provided air-to-air refueling! That is correct - Arab tanker jets refueled Israeli F-16's. Iran's leadership and nuclear scientists are reportedly terrified of the Mossad - and rightfully so. The Mossad apparently moves into and out of Iran with ease and has a great deal of high level espionage intelligence access within the bowels of the Iranian government - enough to locate and then export a stunning cache of nuclear program physical documents and digital files.

    There is a tremendous amount of crude oil supply on the market today. North America has become the largest producer in the world. If Iran wants to play games in the Strait of Hormuz I would expect expect some temporary volatility but in terms of world oil supply any dislocation would IMO be rather short-lived.

    My point being, that President Trump has not declared warfare on Iran. Israel, Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates (UAE) banded together 37 months ago and did that.
     
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  9. Of course the Gulf States like Trump's decision, it means higher oil prices. This also means more money can be spent on manufactured terrorism by all parties.
     
  10. bone

    bone

    An argument could be made that in a perverse way the Iran Deal brought stability to the region via the law of unintended consequences. Israel, Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates (UAE) banding together and working together now for 37 months and counting against a common regional foe (Iran) might mean greater peace and stability - who knows, maybe even a lighter U.S. military footprint in the region.
     
    #10     May 9, 2018