Trump Family Values!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Stocktracker, Aug 22, 2020.

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  2. gaussian

    gaussian

    A cope so deep you made an image for it. I have to say the memes from the left really leave something to be desired.

    Anyway here's wonderwall









     
  3. themickey

    themickey

    Choices, Trump or Biden....
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  4. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    That's it? Gaffes and shoulder rubs?

    LMFAO, your guy is toast.

    At least with Clinton you had good conspiracy theories, Biden is going to cut into the Trump vote if you make him look like a pervert like Trump, so I suggest get more of those vids and show them to your dumb right wing friends who love creepy.
     
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  5. gaussian

    gaussian

    Big doubt. The protests and property destruction are almost universally recognized as a Democrat-lead action. In the beginning (May or so) the Democrats had a chance to pull the "not everyone is evil" card and send the DHS in to clean up around the courthouses. Yet, we saw nothing but placating from left-wing governors. They supported it. Not through inaction, but deliberate lack of action and in some places (particularly New York, California, and Oregon) allowing the wanton destruction of property and in some cases violence.

    I'm not speaking any talking points here. Step back out of your basement and take in the 30,000 foot view.

    The truth is neither Biden's abject racism, nor Trumps borderline incompetence, will matter in the upcoming election. The vote is simply divided among the following lines:

    1. Is/Isn't COVID going to improve. A lack of vaccine favors Trump because it solidifies the idea that the lockdowns were all for naught. A vaccine favors Biden because "if we just locked down a little longer people would still be alive".

    2. Economic stress. At 30% unemployment due to the lockdowns people are understandably afraid of the other shoe dropping. A stricter lockdown would likely tank the presidency of the person who advocates for it. This person is likely Biden.

    3. The middle class continues to be gutted. The Trumpbux didn't rain on them and they are understandably angry. Trump has done very little for the middle class, but so too the Democrats, who have not done a single thing for the Middle class since their God-King Obama reigned. I think this could go either way, leaning towards Trump because the Green New Deal will scare the vast majority of middle class union workers in various oil-based industries.

    4. Protests. Universally seen as understandable at the outset but after riots ensued they were enabled by the Democrats. I will inject a single talking point here - promotion of BLM was a huge mistake. If the goal is to "improve black lives" and "solve systemic racism" then how is dismantling the nuclear family (a stated goal of BLM) going to do that?

    5. Dismantling the police as a platform. This was a huge mistake. Police unions have been pulling out of the DNC funding circuit since they publicly denounced them. Say what you may about police, but this is a significant source of votes. Most Americans agree police are necessary. Most Americans agree police should be more accountable for their actions. Nearly no one thinks dismantling the police is a good thing.

    6. Kamala Harris. She is arguably one of the worst candidates Biden could've picked. Her presidential campaign polling was so poor she dropped out before she even had a chance at making a stand. Susan Rice would've been a far better candidate. I'm saying that as someone who tends to lean right.

    7. Empowering "The Squad". They represent the furthest left fringe of the party. Giving them the platform is akin to giving the KKK a platform in the RNC. Empowering unhinged radicals never pans out regardless of what side you sit on.


    Polls are almost universally slanted Democrat and have been for several elections now. Registered Democrats significantly outnumber registered Republicans so I suppose this is expected. Trump stands a good chance at a landslide victory provided he stops making stupid statements. This appears to be incredibly difficult considering he is now suggesting the deep state is withholding a vaccine and appears to only get his news from OAN.

    Remarkably in any other circumstance I would likely agree Trump is a 1 term president. If Yang, Bernie, or Beto ran against him it would be a done deal. However Biden/Kamala is so bad it almost makes every stupid thing Trump has done excusable. You take the two worst candidates and put them together. Biden miraculously won despite being the absolute bottom polling candidate after the first set of drop outs. Bernie again gets shafted despite being the uncontested popular vote pick. Yang, a moderate-left, gets completely blown out. It's 2016 all over again baby.

    Of course, you will simply copy-paste whatever shariablue tells you to respond to me with. I would one day like to know what you honestly think.
     
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  6. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    Only among Republicans, Biden's lead increased during the protests because killing of minorities moves votes more than 'property destruction'. You know being pro life and all

    And Republicans are a party of killing minorities for nothing, good luck with that.


    Other countries controlled the spread with a proper lockdown while it still rages in the US, you are not going anywhere with the argument that lockdown was a bad idea, check the polls.

    Economic stress is because Trump wont use the power of government to help people, virus caused the economic stress, not the measures to contain it.

    Biden isnt for the Green New Deal as proposed, his measures wont affect middle class voters at all, you are babbling right wing talking points

    Murder of minorities is bigger issue than 'riots' you keep harping about.

    Biden isn't for that, even Fox News will tell you that, check Wallace interview with Trump

    Says a Trump supporter, you would have said that about anyone Biden picked

    Squad endorsed Sanders, not Biden, they reluctantly support Biden because Trump. Save your fear mongering for your fellow facebook boomers.



    Landslide? The fat turd won by 77k votes when he was running against an unpopular candidate but now with mass unemployment and chaos, you think he is going to win a landslide? You are delusional, what you posted is nothing but confirmation bias. Polls in 2016 had high undecideds which broke late for Trump, there aren't that many undecideds now because nobody believes the Trump bullshit anymore.

    The squad is bad

    But if Sanders was running, it would have been better. Another great logic drop from you.

    You are nothing but a disingenuous boomer with low intellect masquerading as some deep thought guy, your comments are shallow and riddled with logical errors, give me a break with your boomer insults like shariablue, Russians ran a huge GRU operation to help Trump but you are complaining about some basement leftists who nobody cares about. I have been talking politics here for 10 years, so piss off with your dumb inbred arguments about being a shill, a dead place like this with 100 views and dumb Trumptards around is not a place anyone will pay to post let alone I would engage with low intellect bullshitters like you for any money. So go eff yourself again with your typical whiny bullshit.
     
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  7. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    Since you are too lazy to do research, here is something for you

    NBC News/SM 8/22 - 8/28 24104 RV 1.0 41 37 11 5 Clinton +4
    Gravis 8/22 - 8/23 1493 LV 2.5 42 41 4 1 Clinton +1
    Rasmussen Reports 8/23 - 8/24 1000 LV 3.0 42 38 9 2 Clinton +4
    Reuters/Ipsos 8/20 - 8/24 1049 LV 3.5 39 36 7 3 Clinton +3
    Economist/YouGov 8/19 - 8/23 906 RV 4.1 42 38 6 4 Clinton +4
    Quinnipiac 8/18 - 8/24 1498 LV 2.5 45 38 10 4 Clinton +7
    NBC News/SM 8/15 - 8/21 17459 RV 1.1 43 38 11 5 Clinton +5
    Pew Research 8/9 - 8/16 1567 RV 2.8 41 37 10 4 Clinton +4

    You can see Hillary never really cracked 50% in the vast majority of polls. Biden has been consistently above that. Biden has hit 50 already and there is no email issue or Comey surprise waiting. He is also more well liked unlike Trump who is more unpopular in a shit economy which means Dems wont be complacent like they were in 16. Good luck with your landslide.
     
  8. gaussian

    gaussian

    You are an effigy of democrat hubris.

    You've pointed me at polls and fed me DNC convention talking points. The hubris you exude is nearly unbounded and it's almost hilarious getting you to seeth like you are. As for my shallow comments riddled with logical errors at least they were genuine. Your unabashed kowtowing of the prime list of DNC talking points is far more suspect of payposting. You never deviate. Either you are the perfect democrat campaign canvasser or you are a shill. You see, usually humans express a dynamic in several political axes that would represent free thought.

    Tell me one thing - does it bother you knowing that everyone that told you they were voting Hillary turned around and voted Trump? Does it bother you that they're going to do it again? No one will tell the truth about voting for Trump. The landslide will be pinned on Russia, yet again, because apparently the only true vote is for Democrats. Pitiful. The hubris is their undoing.

    I am flattered you think I really care about Trump. He's done a lot of good. He wouldn't have been my first choice. McCain would've certainly towed the Republican line better if he had decided to run. You wouldn't even believe me if I told you I would've voted Yang because you're so high on whatever shariablue is paying you with (K2?) that you can't understand people can have multiple axes of political ideology.
     
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  9. themickey

    themickey

    Gotta admit, that was painful to watch.
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    No matter who gets in, yur fucked. :)
     
  10. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    You know, none of this talk matters. Trump lost it a long time ago. Just a matter of how badly the Republican party gets beaten.
     
    #10     Aug 23, 2020