Trump doesn't care if wildfires destroy the west – it didn't vote for him

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Frederick Foresight, Sep 13, 2020.

  1. The climate crisis is upon us all but the president pursues more rollbacks. This election offers an existential choice,

    https://www.theguardian.com/comment...res-california-oregon-washington-robert-reich

    The air outside my window is yellow today. It was orange yesterday. The Air Quality Index is over 200. The Environmental Protection Agency defines this as a “health alert” in which “everyone may experience more serious health effects if they are exposed for 24 hours”. Unfortunately, the index has been over 200 for several days.

    The west is burning. Wildfires in California, Oregon and Washington are incinerating homes, killing scores of people, sickening many others, causing hundreds of thousands to evacuate, burning entire towns to the ground, consuming millions of acres, and blanketing the western third of the United States with thick, acrid and dangerous smoke.

    Yet the president has said and done almost nothing. A month ago, Trump wanted to protect lives in Oregon and California from “rioters and looters”. He sent federal forces into the streets of Portland and threatened to send them to Oakland and Los Angeles.

    Today, Portland is in danger of being burned and Oakland and Los Angeles are under health alerts. Trump will visit California on Monday, but he has said little.

    One reason: these states voted against him in 2016 and he still bears a grudge.

    He came close to rejecting California’s request for emergency funding.

    “He told us to stop giving money to people whose houses had burned down because he was so rageful that people in the state of California didn’t support him,” said former Department of Homeland Security chief of staff Miles Taylor.

    Another explanation for Trump’s silence is that the wildfires are tied to human-caused climate change, which Trump has done everything humanly possible to worsen.

    Extreme weather disasters are rampaging across America. On Wednesday, the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration released its latest State of the Climate report, finding that just in August the US was hit by four billion-dollar calamities. In addition to wildfires, there were two enormous hurricanes and an extraordinary Midwest derecho.

    These are inconvenient facts for a president who has spent much of his presidency dismantling every major climate and environmental policy he can lay his hands on.

    Starting with his unilateral decision to pull out of the Paris climate agreement, Trump has been the most anti-environmental president in history.

    He has called climate change a “hoax”. He has claimed, with no evidence, that windmills cause cancer. He has weakened Obama-era limits on planet-warming carbon dioxide from power plants and from cars and trucks. He has rolled back rules governing clean air, water and toxic chemicals. He has opened more public land to oil and gas drilling.

    He has targeted California in particular, revoking the state’s authority to set tougher car emission standards than those required by the federal government.

    In all, the Trump administration has reversed, repealed, or otherwise rolled back nearly 70 environmental rules and regulations. More than 30 rollbacks are still in progress.

    Now, seven weeks before election day, with much of the nation either aflame or suffering other consequences of climate change, Trump unabashedly defends his record and attacks Joe Biden.

    “The core of [Biden’s] economic agenda is a hard-left crusade against American energy,” Trump harrumphed in a Rose Garden speech last month.

    Not quite. While Biden has made tackling climate change a centerpiece of his campaign, proposing to invest $2tn in a massive green jobs program to build renewable energy infrastructure, his ideas are not exactly radical. The money would be used for improving energy efficiency, constructing 500,000 electric vehicle charging stations, and increasing renewable energy from wind, solar and other technologies.

    Biden wants to end the use of fossil fuels to generate electricity by 2035, and to bring America to net zero emissions of greenhouse gases by no later than 2050. His goals may be too modest. If what is now occurring in the west is any indication, 2050 will be too late.

    Nonetheless, Americans have a clear choice. In a few weeks, when they decide whether Trump deserves another four years, climate change will be on the ballot.

    The choice shouldn’t be hard to make. Like the coronavirus, the dire consequences of climate change – coupled with Trump’s utter malfeasance – offer unambiguous proof that he couldn’t care less about the public good.
     
  2. Snarkhund

    Snarkhund

    lol I agree that there is climate change, there always has been. We are sitting in a temperate period between Ice Ages. Its likely that Ice Ages are triggered by gradual warming.

    Trump is doing a good job though. Keeping us from being arbitrarily taxed out of existence with Carbon Fees is a good thing. There is no viable alternative to fossil fuels except nuclear and apparently that is off-the-table for leftists. Sensible people will prevail, of course. Aside from nutters like you Freddy nobody is going to opt to destroy Western Civilization.

    If the West won't harvest lumber, clear undergrowth or otherwise manage the forests they will burn. The Native Americans knew this and regularly burned chaparral before it became a dangerous problem. You can scream about fake Global Warming until you are hoarse but everyone can see that the problem is forest management.
     
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  3. smallfil

    smallfil

    Maybe, you Antifa and BLM thugs fan boys should tell your side to stop burning businesses and starting fires everywhere? At some point, those fires would be beyond anyone's control and burn everything in its path?
     
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  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Why is Canada having below average forest fires in British Columbia while Washington, Oregon, and California are burning out of control?

    Let's take a look at the current report from the Canadian government...
    https://cwfis.cfs.nrcan.gc.ca/report

    The forest fires in Canada are way below average this year.

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  5. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Temperature and latitude, how does it work?
     
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  6. elderado

    elderado

    Californians have a "clear choice."

    Let them have at it and really piss Trump off on election day.

    That'll show him.

    Plenty of $$$ in the Golden State, no need to ask for federal help.

    P.S. - California has tried really hard at getting off fossil fuels and has the results to prove the effectiveness. Explains why they're back on fossil fuels these days, now, doesn't it?
     
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  7. Snarkhund

    Snarkhund

    Gavin Newsom, to his credit, seems to have developed some common sense. Yeah he spouted off pretty bad this week about "Global Warming" but behind the scenes he has met with Trump and agreed to institute some forest management in exchange for a big pile of federal funding allocated specifically for this purpose. The money cannot be repurposed, it can only be used according the the forest management plan agree upon with the federal government.

    He makes noises like a warming loon but in the background he is making vectors for the right course of action. It may be motivated by self-preservation but who cares if the results help save lives and property?
     
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Interesting how the fires stop at the Canadian border.... and despite having similar weather conditions British Columbia is having a below average fire season. Nothing to do with temperature and latitude. You should try again with a reasonable explanation. (Hint: I already have one.)
     
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  9. For those who think that BC and Alberta etc are too far north for forest fires, I have one question for you.

    Can you spell "Fort McMurray Fire 2016?"
     
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  10. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    let me guess, antifaman bad?
     
    #10     Sep 13, 2020