Trump being Alinskyied by right and left ?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jem, Mar 13, 2016.

  1. jem

    jem

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...hat-trump-security-moment-does-to-a-campaign/

    by RAHEEM KASSAM13 Mar 20163,263

    I’ve been saying it for a while now, the mainstream media, alongside the politicians running against Donald Trump on both sides, are creating the conditions in which it would be totally “understandable” if there were an attempt on Trump’s life. Seriously.

    1/Make #Trump enemy
    2/Make him Hitler (last wk)
    3/Blame for violence (this wk)
    4/Make him look vulnerable (2day)
    5/Someone tries to kill

    9:03 AM - 12 Mar 2016



    Think about it. First, they made Donald Trump the enemy of this race, albeit the butt of the jokes. Then the joke got unfunny. Mr. Trump started attracting serious support. And the primary victories came. And the other candidates dropped out. And now we’re down to just four. Three in reality. Subtract Rubio or Kasich at your discretion. Maybe you deduct both. We’re down to two.

    Now Donald Trump is Adolf Hitler. Because people raise their hands at his rallies. THEY RAISED THEIR HANDS WHEN ASKED TO. That must make them Nazis. Forget that Mrs. Clinton’s supporters have done the same thing. Forget it. He’s Hitler. Heute America, morgen die Welt!



    And as this week has drawn on it has become clear that Mr. Trump’s influence is being worked on by… passionate observers… to make it look like he and his campaign are the violent ones. Make what you will of that sentence, but I’ve been in the thick of a populist campaign before, and I know exactly how it feels to have to protect your “principal”.

    That’s your boss. The head honcho. The prime target.

    I was hired to be UK Independence Party Leader Nigel Farage’s senior advisor. I was supposed to be a sounding board for ideas, with a trumped up job title. In reality, I served as an extra member of his security team (though his team were and are absolutely fantastic, for the record).

    So Mr. Trump, like Mr. Farage, has been portrayed as the progenitor of violence, despite the fact that

    Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT)

    16%

    supporters shut down his rally in Chicago last night. And despite the fact that someone tried to jump Mr. Trump on stage in Ohio today. The problem, to these people, is Mr. Trump. Not their own, barbaric, inbuilt (and often inbred) violent tendencies.


    The truth is, no matter how much Mr. Trump’s team will tell you that today’s events won’t shake their resolve: it will.

    When your principal is threatened: you start to change the way you operate – Secret Service or not.

    Today’s incident, involving someone allegedly tied to ISIS, will lead to the following:

    • More security screenings, before and after, for attendees of Trump rallies. This is a major issue because it will discourage attendees if word gets around as to how difficult it is to get inside any more;
    • Greater distance between the crowds and Mr. Trump at the rallies. The Secret Service won’t mess around. And it won’t be up to the Trump campaign. What this means in reality is slightly altered optics. Not a huge issue for those in the hall, but a problem for the Trump comms team. They’ve gotta make it look like nothing has changed, gotta make it look like he’s still in the thick of people, while having 10 foot more between the stage and the fans. Not as easy as it sounds.
    • Mr. Trump will be distracted on stage. As I’m sure Nigel Farage – for all of his gusto – was during the entire election campaign. Despite eggings, being hit withbanners, having to evacuate pubs, being locked into pubs, being swept away by police, Mr. Farage kept up if not increased his campaign schedule. Which led to more dirty tricks (like Neo Nazis being snuck into his meetings by newspapers, so that they could photograph them inside and run a story about it – expect this too).
    • Greater lead time between events, and more work for the advance teams. I know, this is “inside baseball” for political campaigners. But a lot of Trump’s lure so far has been this appearance of working on a shoestring. Of attracting thousands of people in a matter of days. It won’t be that easy anymore. Because it’s not just people jumping barricades that security teams will be concerned about anymore. It’s bombs. It’s weapons secreted in venues. It’s chemicals. You have no idea how much this can weigh on the operations teams.
    And it’s quite clear who is to blame for all of this. Who will be to blame if Mr. Trump experiences anything close to what Democrat George Wallace – an actual segregationist and racist – did. Being shot four times. And never being the same.

    It’ll be the fault of the Hitlerizing media. It’ll be the fault of the groups who shut down his events, and made him an easy target. And it’ll be the fault of those who would rather defend President Barack Obama’s record as the “first black president” instead of conceding that he has divided your country more than he has united it.



    That he has used skin colour as means to rule.

    And that he has given succour to the hard leftist groups within which he played out his own formative years.

    As a journalist – sadly – we relish news stories like we’ve seen over the past 24 hours. As a human being, and as a former politico, I dread what I’ve seen. Something very bad could be about to happen.
     
  2. Ricter

    Ricter

    As I recall we had people on this forum calling Obama "Hitler", and worse, "Satan incarnate". He's been blamed since day 1 for just about everything. Now he's being blamed for the violence at drumpf rallies. Numerous (gleeful) attempts have been made to make him look vulnerable, typically using polling data. Conditions 1 to 4 have been met.

    Looks like drumpf better get used to it.
     
  3. jem

    jem

    now its - it was done to Obama

    How about we break the cycle and stop with this rules of radical shit and discuss what trump has really said?
     
  4. Snarkhund

    Snarkhund

    The left doesn't want to hear what Trump has to say, they simply want to shut him down.

    Trump is being compared, favorably by some, with Andrew Jackson.

    If the leftists want a Jacksonian campaign followed by a Jacksonian presidency then let them have it.

    They are flipping out because Trump is going to roll back so much liberal policy. The left is comfortable with inciting violence if they perceive it is in their interest to do so. You don't see republican protesters shutting down democrat rallies after all.

    It is infuriating and seeing it come from all directions just makes people more determined to elect him. The left gave us Barrack Obama and the cure for that is going to be Donald Trump.

    The left is going to discover, or rather rediscover. that inciting violence is problematic because there is always some nutter so gullible and impressionable that he/she decides to take some kind of stupid action and your entire party gets judged by the public based upon that action.

    My personal belief here is that Trump doesn't need to have large rallies at all. I think he can win from a television studio at this point. Everyone remembers the hilarious styrofoam greek columns and Obama's utterances about "healing the earth" and the "waters beginning to recede". Who needs that?

    He can phone it in.

    America is not going to elect a recidivist criminal and a serial sex offender to the white house.
     
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  5. piezoe

    piezoe

    What he has really said is ridiculous, and sometimes both ridiculous and incendiary, nationalist bullshit. Trump is not Hitler. But his rhetoric is more nationalist, like Hitler's, than populist. But it is also the rhetoric of a con man. The best comparison by far is Berlusconi, and the Italians loved Berlusconi until they realized the damage he had done. And Trump is not Berlusconi either, it is just that that is the closest comparison as far as personality. Trump is dangerous! I hope to God no one shoots him! And I hope to God he doesn't become our President. Thankfully there is no chance that can happen if the elections are honest. The populace in Hitler's 1930s Germany is not the populace of 2016 in America. The demographics are not in favor of Trump.

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    What makes the Trump con even more amusing is that if he had just put his inherited 200 million in a Vanguard index fund he'd be at the same place without all the bullshit and all the people who lost money because of him. He was conning all those folks now suing him. For a price he would sell you his knowledge. Yah, Right!. The one thing he is great at is sales. If I went to a Trump rally, I'm quite sure I wouldn't be able to resist buying a "Make America Great," hat. A slogan he stole, what else, from Ronald Reagan!
     
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  6. jem

    jem

    a complete lack of substance with the flourish of hoping to God from an atheist.

    Trump has not been an angel but when I do a google search... its seems to me the worst thing I have heard him say is that we were getting some of mexicos worst... (living here in So Cal, something I don't agree with by the way... as many illegals are hard working people) but something that is far from this hitlerish.

    And as far as keeping immigrants out til we can properly screen them... that is the best Ideas I have heard in years... except for tariffs instead of income tax.

    So what is it that you find so objectionable?
     
  7. piezoe

    piezoe

    Continual lies. Apparently you missed the part about Mexico sending us "their rapists" and the U.S. building a wall, not a fence, between the U.S. and Mexico, and getting Mexico to pay for it; then "the wall just [getting] ten feet taller." (Let's be generous to Trump and say that the wall he's going to build, that Mexico pays for, is only 16 feet high, i.e., the original wall was only six feet high.) And that's just a sample of the ridiculous things he has said, not to mention any of his other obvious lies.

    If you are planning to vote for someone, wouldn't it be a good idea to listen to what they are saying?
     
  8. jem

    jem

    a lying poltician... who could that be?
    lol...

    vote for one that does not lie? how...





     
  9. piezoe

    piezoe

    Sanders is the closest we are likely to get. Consider supporting him. We are not going to agree with everything, but on the other hand we could be wrong, and Sanders right.
     
  10. Again, Sanders makes "Hope and Change" look credible. You would have to be a complete knob to believe 10% of what this guy says is possible.
     
    #10     Mar 14, 2016
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