Top Democrat's proposed tax on unrealized capital gains would be devastating for financial markets

Discussion in 'Economics' started by Banjo, Apr 3, 2019.

  1. Banjo

    Banjo

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  3. Snuskpelle

    Snuskpelle

    Taxing paper gains, what can go wrong.
     
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  4. RedDuke

    RedDuke

    Sometimes I am ashamed of being a Democrat. What an idiotic proposal. What if investment looses in value after all???? All those taxed getting refunded???? Gee, what can go wrong.
     
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  5. schweiz

    schweiz

    Imagine that it would have been applied in 2017 and 2018 for bitcoins.
    Buy bitcoins at $4,000 and end of 2017 pay taxes on the value at dec,31 2017. At $13,880, or a profit of $9,880. Taxes will have to be financed in some way, you will need cash or a loan to finance this "provisional profit".
    And end of 2018 catch a loss of $10,187 ($13,880-$3,693).
    Question is: will the refund be correct, when will it be paid back, after how many years a refund can be cancelled?

    The American Dream has already been gone a long time ago.
     
  6. bone

    bone

    They really do want to hand Donald Trump four more years on a silver platter :banghead:
     
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  7. smallfil

    smallfil

    Yeah, investors will just wait till Republicans regain power in the House then, repeal all those taxes! If you are an investor or trader, you are a fool for voting for any Democrat! Like slashing your own throat?
     
  8. Sinbin

    Sinbin

    I thought this was a joke thread. I was honestly surprised to read it wasn’t a joke thread. Man... I went from a pleasantly surprised and inquisitive mood to my brain scrambling at how this could possibly work and be effective.
     
  9. Snuskpelle

    Snuskpelle

    Somewhat off-topic: We do have tax on capital on an optional basis in Sweden. On an "investment account" you can choose to be taxed on a quarterly basis, the rate somewhat based on interest rates. Naturally, the tax is very low currently sitting at 0.453% p.a and overall has been extremely favorable since the account form's introduction. The left here now wants to drastically increase taxation from these accounts - and to be fair, I don't see how this can possibly be "balanced" versus regular taxation on capital gains so I would personally remove it.

    Of course, this is probably very different from what that guy is suggesting. Nonetheless, the point remains that tax on capital is just dumb, as is tax on unrealized gains.
     
  10. ET180

    ET180

    Wyden, the idiot who proposed this, represents the state of Oregon (although he lives in New York). Oregon has a really high state income tax. A lot of people invest while in Oregon and then wait until after moving out of the state to sell, thereby escaping the state income tax on capital gains...he's probably trying to go after that money.
     
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